In To-day's Newspapers
May 18th 2011, 12:10 am
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Just waiting to hear, on the radio, how David Cameron is defending to the house his decision to increase the 300 million pounds aid we give to India each year! If it wasn't so bloody infuriating, I'd laugh!
May 18th 2011, 2:26 am
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However the entire foreign aid given by UK will be 0.7% of GNI (the UN target) and there are other countries who give far more including Ireland.
What is important is some sort of control on how the aid is used, particularly in Pakistan which will have the largest amount of UK aid. It is desperately needed there but how will it be used?
May 18th 2011, 2:31 am
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Can see what you mean, particularly as Gov. of India has said that they don't want it; and India itself gives about £300 million in aid to other countries. It is just passing money around.
However the entire foreign aid given by UK will be 0.7% of GNI (the UN target) and there are other countries who give far more including Ireland.
What is important is some sort of control on how the aid is used, particularly in Pakistan which will have the largest amount of UK aid. It is desperately needed there but how will it be used?
However the entire foreign aid given by UK will be 0.7% of GNI (the UN target) and there are other countries who give far more including Ireland.
What is important is some sort of control on how the aid is used, particularly in Pakistan which will have the largest amount of UK aid. It is desperately needed there but how will it be used?
May 18th 2011, 2:48 am
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Re: In To-day's Newspapers
I'm out of date then, looking back on the article I read, it states 'could receive the most' . Still hope they use whatever they get for its intended purpose.
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May 18th 2011, 3:26 am
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It really doesn't matter who gets most - various sources will contradict each other anyway. It's just an absolute disgrace and I'm sick of our country giving so much Aid to countries who mismanage their own economy and when we're on our knees ourselves.
May 18th 2011, 9:49 am
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Can see what you mean, particularly as Gov. of India has said that they don't want it; and India itself gives about £300 million in aid to other countries. It is just passing money around.
However the entire foreign aid given by UK will be 0.7% of GNI (the UN target) and there are other countries who give far more including Ireland.
What is important is some sort of control on how the aid is used, particularly in Pakistan which will have the largest amount of UK aid. It is desperately needed there but how will it be used?
However the entire foreign aid given by UK will be 0.7% of GNI (the UN target) and there are other countries who give far more including Ireland.
What is important is some sort of control on how the aid is used, particularly in Pakistan which will have the largest amount of UK aid. It is desperately needed there but how will it be used?
The UK is on the point of financial crippledom and cannot afford these handouts.
And before you turn this into some imagined tyrade against the poor, bear in mind that the amount from that sum that actually goes to the poor is negligible.
As for aide money to Pakistan, I would like to see a little more effort on their part in the eradication of Pakistan located terrorist training camps first !
Dread - x
May 18th 2011, 10:06 am
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Personally I really don't care what percentage this equates to, I just object to taxpayers money being given in aid to a country, where the majority of it will go into politicians' and rich peoples' pockets ! I also object to this money on the basis that India's economy is bouyant, could afford to eradicate much of its' poverty, yet chooses not to in favour of corruption and capitalist selfisness.
The UK is on the point of financial crippledom and cannot afford these handouts.
And before you turn this into some imagined tyrade against the poor, bear in mind that the amount from that sum that actually goes to the poor is negligible.
As for aide money to Pakistan, I would like to see a little more effort on their part in the eradication of Pakistan located terrorist training camps first !
Although we have always helped our Goan local friends.
Dread - x
The UK is on the point of financial crippledom and cannot afford these handouts.
And before you turn this into some imagined tyrade against the poor, bear in mind that the amount from that sum that actually goes to the poor is negligible.
As for aide money to Pakistan, I would like to see a little more effort on their part in the eradication of Pakistan located terrorist training camps first !
Although we have always helped our Goan local friends.
Dread - x
My family come first.
although we have always helped our local Goan friends - not like some Money bags,
we know, as you have said "fur coat no draws" -
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May 18th 2011, 10:14 am
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Personally I really don't care what percentage this equates to, I just object to taxpayers money being given in aid to a country, where the majority of it will go into politicians' and rich peoples' pockets ! I also object to this money on the basis that India's economy is bouyant, could afford to eradicate much of its' poverty, yet chooses not to in favour of corruption and capitalist selfisness.
The UK is on the point of financial crippledom and cannot afford these handouts.
And before you turn this into some imagined tyrade against the poor, bear in mind that the amount from that sum that actually goes to the poor is negligible.As for aide money to Pakistan, I would like to see a little more effort on their part in the eradication of Pakistan located terrorist training camps first !
Dread - x
The UK is on the point of financial crippledom and cannot afford these handouts.
And before you turn this into some imagined tyrade against the poor, bear in mind that the amount from that sum that actually goes to the poor is negligible.As for aide money to Pakistan, I would like to see a little more effort on their part in the eradication of Pakistan located terrorist training camps first !
Dread - x
UK is still one of the world's richest countries, I am proud that we can give something. and are not at the bottom of the list in aid-giving.
May 18th 2011, 7:24 pm
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I would be proud if we used this money for our own UK citizens benefit instead of constantly raising taxes to give to spendthrift foreigners.
I would be proud of spending £300 million on hospitals and other care facilities for British people in Britain.
I would be proud of anyone who didn't dismiss a figure of this magnitude as a pittance by using percentages of GDP.
I would be proud of a Conservative government that stopped kissing the @rses of a handful of demented Liberals with policies like this to stay in power.
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May 18th 2011, 7:49 pm
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I would be proud if we gave them nothing, if we told them to s*d off and spend their military and space programme budgets on their own poor.
I would be proud if we used this money for our own UK citizens benefit instead of constantly raising taxes to give to spendthrift foreigners.
I would be proud of spending £300 million on hospitals and other care facilities for British people in Britain.
I would be proud of anyone who didn't dismiss a figure of this magnitude as a pittance by using percentages of GDP.
I would be proud of a Conservative government that stopped kissing the @rses of a handful of demented Liberals with policies like this to stay in power.
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I would be proud if we used this money for our own UK citizens benefit instead of constantly raising taxes to give to spendthrift foreigners.
I would be proud of spending £300 million on hospitals and other care facilities for British people in Britain.
I would be proud of anyone who didn't dismiss a figure of this magnitude as a pittance by using percentages of GDP.
I would be proud of a Conservative government that stopped kissing the @rses of a handful of demented Liberals with policies like this to stay in power.
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There are other countries to which we give aid. Also many people in UK are of a generous nature and think of others, look at the £millions given to 'chldren in need' projects and similar. Yes I am proud that UK has this characteristic and also ashamed that many in India (including some relatives) think of charity as a 'weakness'.
The aid programme was in place long before the coalition government came into being.
May 18th 2011, 8:48 pm
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Also many people in UK are of a generous nature and think of others, look at the £millions given to 'chldren in need' projects and similar.
The aid programme was in place long before the coalition government came into being.
May 18th 2011, 9:47 pm
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I would be proud if we gave them nothing, if we told them to s*d off and spend their military and space programme budgets on their own poor.
I would be proud if we used this money for our own UK citizens benefit instead of constantly raising taxes to give to spendthrift foreigners.
I would be proud of spending £300 million on hospitals and other care facilities for British people in Britain.
I would be proud of anyone who didn't dismiss a figure of this magnitude as a pittance by using percentages of GDP.
I would be proud of a Conservative government that stopped kissing the @rses of a handful of demented Liberals with policies like this to stay in power.
.
I would be proud if we used this money for our own UK citizens benefit instead of constantly raising taxes to give to spendthrift foreigners.
I would be proud of spending £300 million on hospitals and other care facilities for British people in Britain.
I would be proud of anyone who didn't dismiss a figure of this magnitude as a pittance by using percentages of GDP.
I would be proud of a Conservative government that stopped kissing the @rses of a handful of demented Liberals with policies like this to stay in power.
.
I'm about to lose my job due to cuts in Education. But what worries me more is the abolition of the Young Peoples Service. They do a fantastic job getting young people back into education, employment or training.
May 18th 2011, 10:13 pm
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I couldn't have put it any better - these are the thoughts of most of the British population I'm sure. I've yet to meet someone who would disagree with this. I'm about to lose my job due to cuts in Education. But what worries me more is the abolition of the Young Peoples Service. They do a fantastic job getting young people back into education, employment or training.
I am sorry about your job, my son works (or did) for a career advisory service his job ends next week. He has a family and of course we hope he will accept our help when needed; but he doesn't feel worse off than many of those suffering and being helped by international aid.Isn't the solution, as I said before, better controls on how the money is spent and on site supervision of the aid programmes.
After-thought: if UK cut all international aid tomorrow, would it help the overall economy?
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May 18th 2011, 10:59 pm
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Heidi, you haven't met my family then! I am sorry about your job, my son works (or did) for a career advisory service his job ends next week. He has a family and of course we hope he will accept our help when needed; but he doesn't feel worse off than many of those suffering and being helped by international aid.
Isn't the solution, as I said before, better controls on how the money is spent and on site supervision of the aid programmes.
After-thought: if UK cut all international aid tomorrow, would it help the overall economy?
I am sorry about your job, my son works (or did) for a career advisory service his job ends next week. He has a family and of course we hope he will accept our help when needed; but he doesn't feel worse off than many of those suffering and being helped by international aid.Isn't the solution, as I said before, better controls on how the money is spent and on site supervision of the aid programmes.
After-thought: if UK cut all international aid tomorrow, would it help the overall economy?
May 19th 2011, 9:32 am
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J5 if you read my post you will see that I agree about aid to India, and the worry about aid to Pakistan.
There are other countries to which we give aid. Also many people in UK are of a generous nature and think of others, look at the £millions given to 'chldren in need' projects and similar. Yes I am proud that UK has this characteristic and also ashamed that many in India (including some relatives) think of charity as a 'weakness'.
The aid programme was in place long before the coalition government came into being.
There are other countries to which we give aid. Also many people in UK are of a generous nature and think of others, look at the £millions given to 'chldren in need' projects and similar. Yes I am proud that UK has this characteristic and also ashamed that many in India (including some relatives) think of charity as a 'weakness'.
The aid programme was in place long before the coalition government came into being.
So when I see the actual meagre percentage of the percentage that actually reaches the poor, and then see the lavish lifestyles of those politicians and charity leaders who are living a lavish lifestyle on the back of that aid money, it makes my blood boil !
Dread - x
