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hemingway Nov 8th 2008 1:14 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Goacrazy56 (Post 6953371)
Oh! So its nothing to do at all with murder, rape, drugs, corruption, etc,etc:curse: Silly me :o

Don't be silly of course it's nothing to do with any of these issues or the fact that the word is out that they only want the Brits and foreigners for their money and that they would rob you bilnd given half a curse::curse::curse::curse::mad::mad:[/QUOTE]


Oh come on, t'as bin said before to us 'dreg brits' - why don't you just get off the aeroplane, hand over your dough, then get back on the plane again & go home - save them the bother. . . . . . . . . .

In North West England tonight: it's quite cold! there are frequent heavy rain showers! our local bar is busy! we had a good night!

I'M ENGLISH, I'M PROUD OF BEING ENGLISH, I LOVE ENGLAND, I'LL BE IN GOA IN 3 WEEKS & I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ALSO. . . . . . . . . . . .

Best wishes to all

Hemingway.

Goacrazy56 Nov 8th 2008 8:23 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 
Oh come on, t'as bin said before to us 'dreg brits' - why don't you just get off the aeroplane, hand over your dough, then get back on the plane again & go home - save them the bother. . . . . . . . . .

In North West England tonight: it's quite cold! there are frequent heavy rain showers! our local bar is busy! we had a good night!

I'M ENGLISH, I'M PROUD OF BEING ENGLISH, I LOVE ENGLAND, I'LL BE IN GOA IN 3 WEEKS & I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ALSO. . . . . . . . . . . .

Best wishes to all

Hemingway.[/QUOTE]

I think we all feel the same mate but I draw the line at the English weather but it don't rain in the pubs and if you drink enough that keeps you.That's only the opinion of another Britsh Dreg though:frown: :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Return of Santan Nov 8th 2008 8:38 pm

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Britsh Dreg

DREG Wikipedia possible ref ?; Dem Rowdy English Gits ? ( Well probably)

Your thoughts Milwart ?:wub:

Goacrazy56 Nov 8th 2008 8:43 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Kan-conned (Post 6955121)
Britsh Dreg

DREG Wikipedia possible ref ?; Dem Rowdy English Gits ? ( Well probably)

Your thoughts Milwart ?:wub:

Brilliant:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::thum bsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

johnny five Nov 8th 2008 8:52 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 
Word games good innt?

Don't Really Enjoy Goa anymore

Does Rubbish Ever Go

Digamber Regularly Eats Garbage

Do Rapists Evade Gaol

Dirty Restaurants Evoke Gastroenteritis

More later maybe, innt?

Love From MIL :eek::eek::eek: Wart-on the Bum

noni Nov 8th 2008 9:51 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 6955138)
Word games good innt?

Don't Really Enjoy Goa anymore

Does Rubbish Ever Go

Digamber Regularly Eats Garbage

Do Rapists Evade Gaol

Dirty Restaurants Evoke Gastroenteritis

More later maybe, innt?

Love From MIL :eek::eek::eek: Wart-on the Bum

On form again to-day - is this before your morning coffee or after the first kingfisher.:rofl::rofl:

johnny five Nov 8th 2008 11:35 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 6955254)
On form again to-day - is this before your morning coffee or after the first kingfisher.:rofl::rofl:

Before going with J5 to Remembrance Service at his niece/nephew scool, innit?
Drink Kingfisher, rather drink own soo-soo, sure it tastes better innit.

:eek::eek: MIL :eek: Poppy-bedecked :eek: WART :eek::eek:

Goacrazy56 Nov 9th 2008 12:07 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 6955489)
Before going with J5 to Remembrance Service at his niece/nephew scool, innit?
Drink Kingfisher, rather drink own soo-soo, sure it tastes better innit.

:eek::eek: MIL :eek: Poppy-bedecked :eek: WART :eek::eek:

Crazy J5 Innit!!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl

noni Nov 9th 2008 2:13 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Goacrazy56 (Post 6955550)
Crazy J5 Innit!!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl

http://www.goanvoice.org.uk. 25% drop in British tourists!

When will they every learn - Visas, are the biggest problem, with flights being sold off so cheap - people cannot get a visa in time.

Honey Bee Nov 9th 2008 2:27 pm

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by noni (Post 6957342)
http://www.goanvoice.org.uk. 25% drop in British tourists!

When will they every learn - Visas, are the biggest problem, with flights being sold off so cheap - people cannot get a visa in time.


German woman trying to drop rape case!!!:ohmy::unsure:
http://goanvoice.org.uk

Honey Bee Nov 9th 2008 3:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Honey Bee (Post 6957373)
German woman trying to drop rape case!!!:ohmy::unsure:
http://goanvoice.org.uk

In Herald to-day. Foreign property deals in Goa full of Scams!

http://www.oheraldo.in

' FEMA allows a foreign national with a business visa to buy non-agricultural land in India if he/she stays in the country for 182 dys in a year. A foreigner can also purchase land purely for personal use, like a holiday home.
and the article continues in the usual recyled vein.

1s.cowell Nov 10th 2008 4:44 am

In To-day's Newspapers ( Just on Radio 4)
 
The World Travel Market are holding an exhibition in London over the next 4 days and a rep has been just been on Radio4 advocating that if you wish to visit other parts of India why not use a CHEAP PACKAGE TO GOA FOR £230 instead of paying to fly to Delhi, Bombay etc for £500 +

OH HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN ! :(:blink:

and yes guess who is there ?:confused:

Department of Tourism, Government of Goa :curse:

If anyone goes to this exhibition you may wish to visit the Dept of Tourism and give 'em a nudge to wake 'em up:zzz:

I shall be there in the Carribean Carnival party tent with some friends

Simon:D

wheatsheaf Nov 10th 2008 8:45 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers ( Just on Radio 4)
 

Originally Posted by 1s.cowell (Post 6959158)
The World Travel Market are holding an exhibition in London over the next 4 days and a rep has been just been on Radio4 advocating that if you wish to visit other parts of India why not use a CHEAP PACKAGE TO GOA FOR £230 instead of paying to fly to Delhi, Bombay etc for £500 +

OH HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN ! :(:blink:

and yes guess who is there ?:confused:

Department of Tourism, Government of Goa :curse:

If anyone goes to this exhibition you may wish to visit the Dept of Tourism and give 'em a nudge to wake 'em up:zzz:

I shall be there in the Carribean Carnival party tent with some friends

Simon:D

what a bunch of buffoons. They are cheap themselves; are getting all their bills paid by someone else and are dipping into the UK development aid funds too Ill bet. Ingrates, dont know which side their bread is buttered.

Vagatorian Nov 11th 2008 1:29 am

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http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=12444&cid=27

A good read ;) Milward has arrived by the sound of it, innit ?

johnny five Nov 11th 2008 3:52 am

Re: In To-day's Newspapers
 

Originally Posted by Vagatorian (Post 6961894)
http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=12444&cid=27

A good read ;) Milward has arrived by the sound of it, innit ?

So good it seemed worth copying it, as the link made it very hard to read!

ENJOY

Tourism: The other side
LIONEL MESSIAS

The hurt of being forced on the sidelines of the tourism bubble; or bearing the brunt of it – either way it’s painful -1

While everybody seems to think the fate of the Goan economy is precariously dependent on tourism and only tourism, not many seem to know or want to know the ‘true picture’ behind the glossy facade. Advertising experts would compare it with institutional advertising. Herald compares it with what Paul Joseph Goebbels, head of Germany’s WWII head of propaganda said amounting to if you repeat a lie often enough, people start believing you. As one expert told us, Goan tourism today is photocopy of tourism somewhere else. While our towns are distinctly ‘Mexican’, our beaches ‘Caribbean’ and our casino’s a cheap copy of Las Vegas, the falling standards of our entertainment offerings to our ‘esteemed benefactors’ is really the least of the concerns. The falsetto of the Portuguese fado and corrudinho entertaining bemused tourists on the Mandovi, notwithstanding.
What is of concern however is the increasing number of impediments Goans have to bear in the name of tourism. For instance, drive evenings down Patto Bridge and be confronted by rambunctious male tourists halting traffic, the solitary traffic cop or home guard a meek bystander. Stroll down the bridge towards the traffic island further down. Hundreds of domestic tourists occupy every available space if not already occupied by taxis and buses that now park beyond the traffic island and under the parallel exit road under the Zuari Bridge. The police tow truck stationed under the truck a mute spectator. Tourists jaywalk on the Church Square. Tourist taxis park aside the steep steps to Church add to the choking of the square. Busloads descend on Panjim market then spread in small groups to buy Mr Kajuwalla’s nuts or any thingamajig that goes as Goan artifacts these days.
Someone’s making a killing.
One food stall owner at the cruise jetty claimed he sells to an average of 100-150 tourists daily. Imagine the sheer quantity of garbage generated. Stall owners say the CCP gets rid of the garbage, nobody knows for sure. Guess where it’s dumped.
There are 7 cruise boats in the Mandovi river - Santa Monica (plus a sister vessel), Princessa De Goa, Coral Queen, Royal Cruises, Paradise Cruises (plus a sister vessel). The tariff is Rs 150 per person. Royal Cruises makes an average of three trips daily ferrying 300 people each trip. Paradise Cruises carries 400 tourists per trip. Each of its boats makes an average of three trips per day and the revenues generated are anything between Rs 1 ½ lakh to 2 lakh per month. Princessa de Goa carries 300 per trip. The government owned Santa Monica makes 2 trips per day and 4 trips during the Christmas season. For several years cruise companies have been doing roaring business even during the monsoons.
Domestic tourists often subject Goan women to a constant stream of degrading pick up lines. Girls are politely asked albeit leeringly whether they would like to be their escorts. All admissions of a clear conscience and stainless reputation are made of course. A Herald reporter was subjected to this repulsive behaviour that else where in India goes down as ‘eve teasing’ and is common.
Garbage
Tons of kitchen waste and plastics are dumped by both tourists and the hospitality industry on roads, beaches and public property. Hotels claim they hire garbage disposers. But, where do the so-called garbage disposers dump hotel garbage? In the event the garbage disposer’s only infrastructure is a truck and nothing else, which extremely convenient for hotels. But like every other misinterpretation offered about the tourism industry, ‘garbage disposers’ ranks high in the list of word usage.
The employment myth
Hotels (including starred hotels) without exception thrive on the steady supply of trained manpower churned out by training institutes. Goan manpower (trainees) though temporary by nature suits hotel owners because when they quit for bigger salaries (eg cruise liners) abroad; the next batch is ready to be employed as ‘trainees’ on entry level salaries of Rs 2,500. Bottom line: Goans need the work certificates to be able to seek jobs abroad and hotels willingly oblige. However, many 4 & 5-Star hotels have now stopped issuing certificates because of the high turnover.
Colva
The rivulet flowing through Colva village and empties into the sea, is the dumping ground for many establishments that were initially granted licenses by the government for pharmacies, handicraft emporiums etc, but many of whom have fully or partly converted their establishment into eateries. The result: the free water flow of this rivulet is arrested and by the time it flows under the two Colva walk-bridges, stagnates and produces a foul smell. As the water somehow makes its way into the sea, children of migrant workers and tourists use it to wash clothes and bathe.
Domestic tourists and people living in apartments in the area throw bags of waste from their cars or hired bikes. This gathers to rot on roads. Migrant workers mainly, employed in restaurant and shacks with no civility or concern for the Goan way of life, urinate and defecate behind bushes refusing to use toilets built for them. Garbage collects on the beach despite the lakhs paid to contractors who are supposed to clean the beach. Domestic tourists do not use bins and there are no signboards to educate such abusers. Will signboards help? Hundreds of especially bus-borne tourists throw their garbage wherever their buses stop. In fact, no single local tourist bus has bins for passengers.
Pedophilia
Locals suspect foreign tourists target vulnerable children attached to anganwadis and baalwadis. They do this by approaching teachers/administrators and agreeing to treat the children to a day out, than sexually exploit using their ‘kindness.’
Stray dogs
Dogs have multiplied on the beach. Prior to January 2008, GAWT (Goa Animal Welfare Trust), an NGO (in Sonsodo) that cares for stray dogs and cats, regularly sterilized strays in and around Colva. After it was forced to shift to Curchorem, stray dogs proliferated. The NGO recently re-started near the Our Lady of Mercy Church. However locals say foreigners love to feed stray dogs and this does not help.
Easy money
Students opt out of getting higher education because there is easy money to be made eg investing in 3-4 bikes can earn a minimum of Rs 600-800 per day on hire.
Goan entrepreneurship extinct?
Goan entrepreneurs will soon become extinct as the entire tourism industry has almost been taken over by non-Goans. Visible references: beginning from the lowly touts who chase vehicles as they pass under the Patto bridge to enter Panjim and those who take gullible tourists to their ‘preferred’ liquor shops, to the middle shops catering exclusively to tourists, shacks, fast food stalls (best example Mira Mar) retail liquor shops (Calangute, Sao Pedro, Old Goa) to the upper end of hotels (from basic to 5-Star) and even cashew retailers. The once ubiquitous Zantye Cashew has been totally marginalized by Kajuwalla, passing off nuts imported from other States as ‘Goan.’ Non-Goans owned a high majority of hotels, restaurants, boutiques, so-called antique shops and launched in the past 8 years and almost 95 per cent of them in the past 2 years across Goa. The old habit of Goans who owned beach properties or near places of tourist interest exploiting theme commercially ended over a decade ago. In Arossim, a powerful Delhi based mega builder threatened Goan landowners to sell their land to him –a fisherman assaulted and his daughter raped by goons.
Old Goa
It is difficult to ascertain but visual evidence indicates above 75 per cent of the temporary stall owners are non-Goans. Definitely 100 per cent of the foot sellers (selling scapulars, candles, rosaries etc) are non-Goans. Foot salesmen include people who take photographs, ‘guides’ who do not have their rudimentary facts right (pronunciation of Portuguese names even worse) and others who have gradually converted the earlier pitch (Goaness) into a virtual flea market -Sombreros hats et al. Vehicles driving out from Divar island are hindered on the short route by tourist parked on either side of the road Under the Viceroy’s Gate past St Cajetan’s Church to Gandhi Circle, sometimes for several minutes (see picture.) A parallel road else where and also used by people living in Divar has almost been chocked off by stalls on one side, parked taxis on the other, foot sellers and tourists jaywalking in the middle. Often SUVs and TRAX vehicles especially from Maharashtra and Karnataka clog these roads from either side bringing traffic to a standstill. A war of words ensures, and the side that ‘surrenders’ retreats in reverse.


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