Family visa rules questioned in UK Parliament
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Family visa rules questioned in UK Parliament
Came across this article last week when I was searching for info on the spouse visa for non-EEA/EU partners of returning BCs. I think this Parliamentary enquiry has been noted in the sticky thread at the top of this section, but that sticky thread is now so long and difficult to read that it seems more sensible to give the enquiry a thread of its own.
http://www.migrantsrights.org.uk/blo...-migration-mps
Shadow Minister for Equalities Kate Green heads the All Party Parliamentary Group on Family Migration, and she is asking some important questions in Parliament about the possible negative effects of the strict financial requirements under the new spouse visa rules. She wonders if the new income threshold is proving to be a hardship on families, especially on the children of couples made up of BC/non-EEA parents.
This particular Parliamentary enquiry started several months ago, and will conclude at the end of this month (31 Jan 2012).
http://www.appgmigration.org.uk/news...igration-rules
The APPG on Family Migration are asking for written evidence of the impact these rules have had on people's lives.
Here's the page to contribute your own evidence if you wish:
http://www.appgmigration.org.uk/family-inquiry
http://www.migrantsrights.org.uk/blo...-migration-mps
Shadow Minister for Equalities Kate Green heads the All Party Parliamentary Group on Family Migration, and she is asking some important questions in Parliament about the possible negative effects of the strict financial requirements under the new spouse visa rules. She wonders if the new income threshold is proving to be a hardship on families, especially on the children of couples made up of BC/non-EEA parents.
Kate Green: Children's well-being may be at risk if the family migration rules perpetuate family separation by preventing a parent from joining his or her family here in the UK. What is the Minister doing to monitor the impact of the family migration rules on children's well-being?
http://www.appgmigration.org.uk/news...igration-rules
The APPG on Family Migration are asking for written evidence of the impact these rules have had on people's lives.
Individuals who have direct experience of the new family migration rules, as well as support organisations and advisers, are particularly invited to share their views.
http://www.appgmigration.org.uk/family-inquiry
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Re: Family visa rules questioned in UK Parliament
Brilliant, about time someone started a constructive process.
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Thanks for the link, ive already sent in my 5 cents worth
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:-)
Hopefully the new 'rules' fold in the future no £64K Bollocks
Hopefully the new 'rules' fold in the future no £64K Bollocks
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Re: Family visa rules questioned in UK Parliament
I sent my piece into the inquiry, and have received an invite to watch the first oral evidence submissions on the 11th of Feb.
I'm assuming anyone else who sent submissions got the same invite, or did I get lucky?
I'm assuming anyone else who sent submissions got the same invite, or did I get lucky?
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Re: Family visa rules questioned in UK Parliament
You can speak directly with Deputy Prime Minister, Nick Clegg, on Thursday mornings (9am UK time) on a live radio broadcast on the LBC 97.3FM radio station:
http://www.lbc.co.uk/call-clegg-nick...n-on-lbc-65903
Home Page: http://www.lbc.co.uk (it's not entirely London focussed, they cover issues and have people call in from around the world).
http://www.lbc.co.uk/call-clegg-nick...n-on-lbc-65903
Home Page: http://www.lbc.co.uk (it's not entirely London focussed, they cover issues and have people call in from around the world).
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The submissions of evidence are still being accepted on this link, as far as I can tell. I guess it may shut down tonight at midnight UK time...?
http://www.appgmigration.org.uk/family-inquiry
http://www.appgmigration.org.uk/family-inquiry
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No invite for me, Dave. Maybe they thought that as I was against the new minimum income requirement, I wouldn't be able to afford the airfare from Australia
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Re: Family visa rules questioned in UK Parliament
I also pointed out that those receiving some disability benefits are exempt, but that those benefits are nowhere near £18,600 and only have to show evidence of one month's payment in the preceding 12 months. I pointed out that this is discrimination in favour of the disabled, and is still discrimination.
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I'm not against the minimum income requirement, I pointed out to them that it's an unrealistic amount to earn in many areas without working 60+ hours every week, without being sick or losing one's job.
I also pointed out that those receiving some disability benefits are exempt, but that those benefits are nowhere near £18,600 and only have to show evidence of one month's payment in the preceding 12 months. I pointed out that this is discrimination in favour of the disabled, and is still discrimination.
I also pointed out that those receiving some disability benefits are exempt, but that those benefits are nowhere near £18,600 and only have to show evidence of one month's payment in the preceding 12 months. I pointed out that this is discrimination in favour of the disabled, and is still discrimination.
The new rules separate families, if the UKC tries to meet the requirements by travelling to the UK alone, and finding and keeping work that meets the income test for 6 months. It's clear that social and economic disadvantage can be the result of this. The Surinder Singh route requires families to uproot and move twice, that's if the UKC can even find employment in an EU country.
Although the new rules will mean the expense of obtaining visas for me, and I will have to wait 5 years for ILR, I'm not affected by the minimum income requirement as my Brit husband and I will more than meet this from investments when we retire in the UK. That doesn't alter the fact that I find the new rules to be discriminatory against the countless UKCs and their families who don't meet the requirements, and are thus excluded from living in their own country simply because they married (or partnered) someone from outside a specified geographical (and political) area.
And the likely net reduction in migration to the UK from these new spouse visa sponsorship rules? Insignificant compared to other forms of migration.
It absolutely stinks.
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Well I'm against it (the minimum income requirement). It's discriminatory, in that it it stops UK citizens who want to come home, but don't meet the income requirements, from living in their own country with their foreign born spouse - yet couples and their children who have absolutely no connection with the UK other than being a citizen of an EEA country can move there at will.
The new rules separate families, if the UKC tries to meet the requirements by travelling to the UK alone, and finding and keeping work that meets the income test for 6 months. It's clear that social and economic disadvantage can be the result of this. The Surinder Singh route requires families to uproot and move twice, that's if the UKC can even find employment in an EU country.
Although the new rules will mean the expense of obtaining visas for me, and I will have to wait 5 years for ILR, I'm not affected by the minimum income requirement as my Brit husband and I will more than meet this from investments when we retire in the UK. That doesn't alter the fact that I find the new rules to be discriminatory against the countless UKCs and their families who don't meet the requirements, and are thus excluded from living in their own country simply because they married (or partnered) someone from outside a specified geographical (and political) area.
And the likely net reduction in migration to the UK from these new spouse visa sponsorship rules? Insignificant compared to other forms of migration.
It absolutely stinks.
The new rules separate families, if the UKC tries to meet the requirements by travelling to the UK alone, and finding and keeping work that meets the income test for 6 months. It's clear that social and economic disadvantage can be the result of this. The Surinder Singh route requires families to uproot and move twice, that's if the UKC can even find employment in an EU country.
Although the new rules will mean the expense of obtaining visas for me, and I will have to wait 5 years for ILR, I'm not affected by the minimum income requirement as my Brit husband and I will more than meet this from investments when we retire in the UK. That doesn't alter the fact that I find the new rules to be discriminatory against the countless UKCs and their families who don't meet the requirements, and are thus excluded from living in their own country simply because they married (or partnered) someone from outside a specified geographical (and political) area.
And the likely net reduction in migration to the UK from these new spouse visa sponsorship rules? Insignificant compared to other forms of migration.
It absolutely stinks.
I doubt the rules will change much after the inquiry, as I feel that government is unlikely to admit it was wrong in issuing the current set. But at least they appear to be doing something.
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Well I'm against it (the minimum income requirement). It's discriminatory, in that it it stops UK citizens who want to come home, but don't meet the income requirements, from living in their own country with their foreign born spouse - yet couples and their children who have absolutely no connection with the UK other than being a citizen of an EEA country can move there at will.
The new rules separate families, if the UKC tries to meet the requirements by travelling to the UK alone, and finding and keeping work that meets the income test for 6 months. It's clear that social and economic disadvantage can be the result of this. The Surinder Singh route requires families to uproot and move twice, that's if the UKC can even find employment in an EU country.
Although the new rules will mean the expense of obtaining visas for me, and I will have to wait 5 years for ILR, I'm not affected by the minimum income requirement as my Brit husband and I will more than meet this from investments when we retire in the UK. That doesn't alter the fact that I find the new rules to be discriminatory against the countless UKCs and their families who don't meet the requirements, and are thus excluded from living in their own country simply because they married (or partnered) someone from outside a specified geographical (and political) area.
And the likely net reduction in migration to the UK from these new spouse visa sponsorship rules? Insignificant compared to other forms of migration.
It absolutely stinks.
The new rules separate families, if the UKC tries to meet the requirements by travelling to the UK alone, and finding and keeping work that meets the income test for 6 months. It's clear that social and economic disadvantage can be the result of this. The Surinder Singh route requires families to uproot and move twice, that's if the UKC can even find employment in an EU country.
Although the new rules will mean the expense of obtaining visas for me, and I will have to wait 5 years for ILR, I'm not affected by the minimum income requirement as my Brit husband and I will more than meet this from investments when we retire in the UK. That doesn't alter the fact that I find the new rules to be discriminatory against the countless UKCs and their families who don't meet the requirements, and are thus excluded from living in their own country simply because they married (or partnered) someone from outside a specified geographical (and political) area.
And the likely net reduction in migration to the UK from these new spouse visa sponsorship rules? Insignificant compared to other forms of migration.
It absolutely stinks.
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And who knows? If this income/savings threshold is not overturned--if it stands--how high will the NEXT rules change hike the requirements....
UKBA love to tinker with the numbers, and if people don't protest, they might well just keep raising the bar till none of us can climb over it. that's my feeling, anyway.
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Re: Family visa rules questioned in UK Parliament
The APPG on Migration will publish its report of the inquiry ‘Into the New Family Migration Rules’ on Monday, 10 June 2013 at 00.01.
Copies will be available on the Committee’s website on the day of publication.
I've been invited for another trip to Parliament for the launch.
Copies will be available on the Committee’s website on the day of publication.
I've been invited for another trip to Parliament for the launch.
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The APPG on Migration will publish its report of the inquiry ‘Into the New Family Migration Rules’ on Monday, 10 June 2013 at 00.01.
Copies will be available on the Committee’s website on the day of publication.
I've been invited for another trip to Parliament for the launch.
Copies will be available on the Committee’s website on the day of publication.
I've been invited for another trip to Parliament for the launch.