Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off?
May 5th 2010, 2:31 pm
#46
Slightly Canadian
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: St. John's, Newfoundland
Posts: 10,129
May 5th 2010, 2:31 pm
#47
Slob
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Ottineau
Posts: 6,342
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
Why on earth would anybody choose to leave Britain in order to be worse off somewhere else? That sounds to me like the actions of a quitter or a loser. And if you try to justify it by citing crime or immigration or chaviness, you're just proving that you're quitting because you don't like the game anymore.
Despite what might be happening at the moment, Britain is the greatest country in the world. It is unbelievably influential for such a small place. Emigrating to Canada for "quality of life for the children" is like saying you'd rather settle for year-on-year top-half-of-the-table safety in the Championship instead of fighting like a demented ferret to stay in the Premiership with the rest of the big boys.
If life were a game of Top Trumps, you can be sure that "growing up British" would comfortably trump "growing up Canadian."
Despite what might be happening at the moment, Britain is the greatest country in the world. It is unbelievably influential for such a small place. Emigrating to Canada for "quality of life for the children" is like saying you'd rather settle for year-on-year top-half-of-the-table safety in the Championship instead of fighting like a demented ferret to stay in the Premiership with the rest of the big boys.
If life were a game of Top Trumps, you can be sure that "growing up British" would comfortably trump "growing up Canadian."
May 5th 2010, 2:31 pm
#48
Forum Regular
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 163
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
Better higher education prospects
More open career path
Cultural diversity
A better view of the world
More space
A chance to buy a home
May 5th 2010, 2:33 pm
#49
Moderαtor Emeritus
Joined: Sep 2003
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 30,768
May 5th 2010, 2:34 pm
#50
Forum Regular
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 163
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
Despite the difference of opinion between us all, I think this forum is an excellent place for a reality slap.
It is very easy to get rose tinted, I know I have.
It is very easy to get rose tinted, I know I have.
May 5th 2010, 2:35 pm
#51
Beep
Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Here
Posts: 8,311
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
No, i meant what does Canada have to offer, not the UK.
May 5th 2010, 2:36 pm
#52
Slightly Canadian
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: St. John's, Newfoundland
Posts: 10,129
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
May 5th 2010, 2:43 pm
#54
Assimilated Pauper
Joined: Mar 2005
Location: Ontario
Posts: 40,019
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
<Snickers at "cultural diversity" being good in Canada but "uncontrolled immigration" being bad in the UK>
May 5th 2010, 2:52 pm
#55
Slob
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Ottineau
Posts: 6,342
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
Quite. I didn't have any expectations, so I've largely been pleasantly surprised.
May 5th 2010, 2:55 pm
#56
Moderαtor Emeritus
Joined: Sep 2003
Location: Upstate South Carolina
Posts: 30,768
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
Whether immigration in the UK is any more prevalent or not Im not in a position to say, but the british in general seem touchy about it.
I expect its just as well planned and controlled there as it is here, its just that the UK has a much higher population density so people are more aware of their neighbours peculiarities perhaps. Plus Canada has not got much history (in the UK sense), so cultural diversity is seen as something positive Canada has, whereas in the UK its seen as a force of erosion on a proud nations long standing traditions and culture.
May 5th 2010, 3:00 pm
#57
Slob
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Ottineau
Posts: 6,342
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
I think its the "Control" aspect thats seen as important
Whether immigration in the UK is any more prevalent or not Im not in a position to say, but the british in general seem touchy about it.
I expect its just as well planned and controlled there as it is here, its just that the UK has a much higher population density so people are more aware of their neighbours peculiarities perhaps. Plus Canada has not got much history (in the UK sense), so cultural diversity is seen as something positive Canada has, whereas in the UK its seen as a force of erosion on a proud nations long standing traditions and culture.
Whether immigration in the UK is any more prevalent or not Im not in a position to say, but the british in general seem touchy about it.
I expect its just as well planned and controlled there as it is here, its just that the UK has a much higher population density so people are more aware of their neighbours peculiarities perhaps. Plus Canada has not got much history (in the UK sense), so cultural diversity is seen as something positive Canada has, whereas in the UK its seen as a force of erosion on a proud nations long standing traditions and culture.
May 5th 2010, 3:01 pm
#58
Account Closed
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 7,284
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
I think its the "Control" aspect thats seen as important
Whether immigration in the UK is any more prevalent or not Im not in a position to say, but the british in general seem touchy about it.
I expect its just as well planned and controlled there as it is here, its just that the UK has a much higher population density so people are more aware of their neighbours peculiarities perhaps. Plus Canada has not got much history (in the UK sense), so cultural diversity is seen as something positive Canada has, whereas in the UK its seen as a force of erosion on a proud nations long standing traditions and culture.
Whether immigration in the UK is any more prevalent or not Im not in a position to say, but the british in general seem touchy about it.
I expect its just as well planned and controlled there as it is here, its just that the UK has a much higher population density so people are more aware of their neighbours peculiarities perhaps. Plus Canada has not got much history (in the UK sense), so cultural diversity is seen as something positive Canada has, whereas in the UK its seen as a force of erosion on a proud nations long standing traditions and culture.
May 5th 2010, 3:27 pm
#59
Soulless bureaucrat
Joined: Aug 2006
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 361
Re: Are your children better off in Canada, even though you are financially worse off
Not sure about the concept of 'proud nation' applied to Britain. Pride and proud are words I see used here pretty much all the time and it jars with me. Maybe it's my upbringing but pride isn't something to aspire to but more something to keep in check. That and boasting.
For me, this pride stuff is just such a bunch of manufactured nonsense. Why should you be 'proud' because you were born in one place not another? What are people proud of exactly?
Where you're born and grow up is a lottery and I see no reason why someone should make pride in that part of their identity.