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Old Jul 29th 2010 | 4:23 am
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Vaguely related to the original post, but I don't think that it would be a bad idea to allow PRs to vote in local elections at least.
 
Old Jul 29th 2010 | 4:23 am
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Originally Posted by The Aviator
You never did answer my question or are you just avoiding it? If you want to leave so badly...
'why did you apply to immigrate to Canada in the first place? Surely you must have looked into the employment prospects beforehand?'
Because my brother owns a business in Vancouver. So just in case I might want to join him later when I get older. Make sense?
 
Old Jul 29th 2010 | 4:26 am
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I have siblings and relatives and friends in both countries. So it totally makes sense to me to move back and forth between two countries. What's wrong with that?
Nothing, so why wait to retire before you do?

30 years from now with any luck you may have your own kids and grandkids to consider too.

Its the question of why get citizenship specifically in order to retire in Canada that is at issue. Cant be family, otherwise why leave in the first place.

It seems unlikely its due to the climate (old people get arthritis, winters a bugger for them here), or for the taxation benefits.


Health care is the only thing I can come up with. Care to enlighten me?
 
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Nothing, so why wait to retire before you do?

30 years from now with any luck you may have your own kids and grandkids to consider too.

Its the question of why get citizenship specifically in order to retire in Canada that is at issue. Cant be family, otherwise why leave in the first place.

It seems unlikely its due to the climate (old people get arthritis, winters a bugger for them here), or for the taxation benefits.


Health care is the only thing I can come up with. Care to enlighten me.
I answered above. Wow folks here are obsessed with me.
 
Old Jul 29th 2010 | 4:33 am
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I answered above. Wow folks here are obsessed with me?
You brothers business?

PR, yes I can see that

Retirement? not so much.

Not you so much as what you seem to represent. I think there is a general feeling that "canadians of convenience" give the rest of us long term immigrants a bad name. The same thing surfaced with the rescuing of all those lebanese canadians a few years ago, many of whom turned out to have spent very little time actually in canada.
 
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Old Jul 29th 2010 | 5:09 am
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Originally Posted by vancouverism
Vaguely related to the original post, but I don't think that it would be a bad idea to allow PRs to vote in local elections at least.
They used to allow British subjects to vote. It changed in 1970. "The right to vote was restricted to Canadian citizens, although British subjects eligible to vote as of June 25, 1968, kept their right to vote until 1975."

Source: http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?...textonly=false

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Old Jul 29th 2010 | 6:52 am
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You brothers business?

PR, yes I can see that

Retirement? not so much.

Not you so much as what you seem to represent. I think there is a general feeling that "canadians of convenience" give the rest of us long term immigrants a bad name. The same thing surfaced with the rescuing of all those lebanese canadians a few years ago, many of whom turned out to have spent very little time actually in canada.
Eventually the OP will run into this problem with a TN visa

3.7 How long can a work permit be issued and can it be extended?
Includes update from OB 85.
Initial work permits can be granted for durations of up to three years. .
Extensions can also be issued in increments of up to three years with no limit on the number of extensions providing the individual continues to comply with the requirements for professionals.
Officers must be satisfied that the employment is still “temporary” and that the applicant is not using NAFTA entry as a means of circumventing normal immigration procedures.
 
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Eventually the OP will run into this problem with a TN visa

3.7 How long can a work permit be issued and can it be extended?
Includes update from OB 85.
Initial work permits can be granted for durations of up to three years. .
Extensions can also be issued in increments of up to three years with no limit on the number of extensions providing the individual continues to comply with the requirements for professionals.
Officers must be satisfied that the employment is still “temporary” and that the applicant is not using NAFTA entry as a means of circumventing normal immigration procedures.
So basically you need to maintain ties to Canada of some sort anyway otherwise your TN visa may not be renewed?

There are spousal / family complications too as I recall. Wouldnt affect the OP I guess, but for us married citizens our better halves have no right to work in the US based on a TN1, right? What about kids and schooling do you know?
 
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So basically you need to maintain ties to Canada of some sort anyway otherwise your TN visa may not be renewed?

There are spousal / family complications too as I recall. Wouldnt affect the OP I guess, but for us married citizens our better halves have no right to work in the US based on a TN1, right? What about kids and schooling do you know?
1. Note: The spouse and unmarried, minor children of the principal alien are entitled to the derivative status, but they are unable to accept employment in the United States. Aliens entering under this classification are considered non-immigrant and granted TD visa status.
2. Children probably would still require a D20
 
Old Aug 7th 2010 | 7:11 pm
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So no, you personally dont have any legal rights to falll back on, because as of right now you dont meet the requirement of having passed the test or interview with a citizenship judge.
Because it hasn't been given even though I've applied. Constructive denial isn't permitted by the Act. I could eventually apply for a writ of Mandamus I suppose, I'll see whether they keep to the timetable on their website, but I just cannot see any justification in it taking more than a year.

And anyway that isn't really the point I was making, the point was if people bitch they may respond to the bitching, I'll worry about going to court if that fails.
 
Old Aug 7th 2010 | 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by PMM
Eventually the OP will run into this problem with a TN visa

3.7 How long can a work permit be issued and can it be extended?
Includes update from OB 85.
Initial work permits can be granted for durations of up to three years. .
Extensions can also be issued in increments of up to three years with no limit on the number of extensions providing the individual continues to comply with the requirements for professionals.
Officers must be satisfied that the employment is still “temporary” and that the applicant is not using NAFTA entry as a means of circumventing normal immigration procedures.
It's not "temporary" exactly, they must be satisfied the TN-1 holder has non-immigrant intent and that means the work is temporary, so every time you apply you get a new job letter.

I know Canadians who have run into trouble on this one, I spoke to a guy who worked in Seattle and one day he rolled up at Peace Arch and CBP denied him entry, and he wasn't even applying for TN-1, he had his valid multiple entry I-94 for his current TN-1 on him. CBP were suspicious because he had Washington plates on his car and eventually after questioning him they denied him entry (although they did later parole him to collect his belongings).

The basic problem with TN-1 compared with H-1B (and in fact the only real problem) is that you're confined to the NAFTA job list, so if your job description changes and it's not on the list, you're stuffed. After all H-1B can usually only be renewed once.

What I said above in my post about TN-1 isn't quite right, you can renew TN-1 while an I-140 is pending but you can't after the I-485 AOS is filed, because at that point you've shown immigrant intent, so no more TN-1s for you.

"Non-immigrant intent" is quite hard to work out for TN-1, because there is no requirement to maintain an abode abroad like there is for H-2B for example and it can be renewed indefinitely unlike H-1B.

Anyway I'm happy living in Canada so I could only see myself faffing around with TN-1 for some sort of short-term consulting work.

This is worth reading: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...erblocked.html

Basically he went in on TN-1, kept renewing it while in the US, then one day he was forced to leave and CBP were much tougher that time.

I don't think it's quite as bad as they're making out in that article though, I've lost count of the number of Canadians I've met renewing TN-1 when I've been sat in secondary inspection and they rarely seem to have problems.
 
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Originally Posted by iaink
Wouldnt affect the OP I guess, but for us married citizens our better halves have no right to work in the US based on a TN1, right? What about kids and schooling do you know?
They'd all be TD. Can attend school but not work.
 
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Originally Posted by vancouverism
Vaguely related to the original post, but I don't think that it would be a bad idea to allow PRs to vote in local elections at least.
Never happen, there was a stink about it in Mississauga a few years back because it was proposed by the council and people went nuts about it. One of the people who suggested it originally I think was a German who had been an LPR for years and years but didn't want to lose German citizenship by becoming Canadian. His argument was that the EU allows it, but I don't think in the EU a Canadian can vote in a local election, only a citizen of another EU country.
 
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but I don't think in the EU a Canadian can vote in a local election, only a citizen of another EU country.
Yes, as a PR they can vote
 


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