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Almost Canadian Oct 5th 2006 1:28 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
I do lament the growth of political correctness over common sense and obsessive fear of liability. For example the Prom park in Maldon has a 60 year old public swimming lake thats now an ornamental pond 'cos some pissed up fool dove in hit his head and died. So in a triumph of the liability culture over darwinism all that history and a free to use facility disappears.

Thankfully the House of Lords recently ruled in a similar case that "it was the fool's fault for being so stupid" he wasn't pissed in this case and recent House of Lords' decision have attempted to rein in the "there must be someone I can blame" type of claim - bad news for ambulance chasers, good news for those that pay taxes and insurance premiums :D :) ;)

kt0157 Oct 5th 2006 1:33 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir
How did they all know what the others wanted? Telepathy?

Easy. The coffee is so weak that those who normally drink tea wouldn't notice it was coffee!

K.

kt0157 Oct 5th 2006 1:42 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
They absolutely are in Toronto. For years I participated in a Wednesday night pick up game of football, completely informal, bags for goalposts, school yard stuff. Eventually the police came and broke it up and I was fined $52 for playing with a ball in park without a permit. (I added the ticket to my collection of Canadiana along with the ones for "wine with picnic" and "allowing small children to paddle in lake, no permit"). I then got into a correspondence with Parks and Rec over what is allowed in the park and it turns out that technically no form of exercise is allowed unless it's part of a formal league which has liability insurance. This is in consequence of the city being sued after someone bicycled off a cliff where there was no sign saying not to do so.

What's next? A fine for "Being mauled by a bear in a Provincial Park without a permit"?

Well you've just proved to me that Canada is even more bureaucratic and over-regulated than I thought (and I already thought it was bloody awful).

When I got my meds request recently from CIC I told them to stuff it where the sun don't shine. I was a bit depressed afterwards wondering whether I'd made the wrong decision. But thank you dbd33, you really cheered me up today: I definitely did the right thing!

K.

iaink Oct 5th 2006 2:24 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 
Ive a feeling that there is something about dbd that attracts this sort of attention.

Ive been here nearly 9 years now and never been the victim of petty beurocracy (apart from buying a burning permit my first year in the house as I didnt know any better;))

silver birch Oct 5th 2006 2:27 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 
Got this via email the other week. So true....

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who
has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was
since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape.

He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as
knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the
worm, life isn't always fair, and maybe it was my fault.

Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend
more than you earn) and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not
children, are in charge).

His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well intentioned but
overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a six-year- old
boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens
suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher
fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his
condition.

Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the
job they themselves failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.

It declined even further when schools were required to get parental
consent to administer Panadol, sun lotion or a Band Aid to a student -
but could not inform the parents when a student became pregnant and
wanted to have an abortion.

Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became
contraband, churches became businesses, and criminals received better
treatment than their victims.

Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a
burglar in your own home and the burglar can sue you for assault.

Common Sense finally gave up the will to live after a woman failed to
realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in
her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.

Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust;
his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.

He is survived by three stepbrothers; I Know My Rights, Someone Else
is to Blame, and I'm A Victim. Not many attended his funeral because
so few realized he
was gone.

If you still remember him, pass this on. If not, join the majority and
do nothing.


Also recall another email that went round about bizarre legal cases, one of which was a woman who bought a winnebago, put it on cruise control and went out back to make a sandwich. Inevitably she crashed but successfully sued on the grounds that nobody told her she shouldn't leave the wheel :scared:

dbd33 Oct 5th 2006 2:32 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by iaink
Ive a feeling that there is something about dbd that attracts this sort of attention.

I did have to make an effort to get the ticket, the police would have been content to move us on. Ontario works like that, there are myriad laws, a surreal number of laws, but most are not enforced most of the time.

kt0157 Oct 5th 2006 2:35 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by silver birch
Also recall another email that went round about bizarre legal cases, one of which was a woman who bought a winnebago, put it on cruise control and went out back to make a sandwich. Inevitably she crashed but successfully sued on the grounds that nobody told her she shouldn't leave the wheel :scared:

Alas that's an urban legend (as are many of others).

Winnebago's own web site

No, it's dbd33's real life examples that are truly depressing.

K.

kt0157 Oct 5th 2006 2:42 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
I did have to make an effort to get the ticket, the police would have been content to move us on.

Ah. So you did the very un-Canadian thing and spoke up for yourself?


Ontario works like that, there are myriad laws, a surreal number of laws, but most are not enforced most of the time.
I reckon all the Ontario residents once per year should have a "Work To Rule" day where everyone enforces every stupid law and basically takes the piss. Write the cheques to the minister for 5 cents, demand to see permits for this and that, report every minor incident to OSH, etc.

Perhaps if that was held one day before election day and a "Common Sense" party stood for election something might get done.

K.

dbd33 Oct 5th 2006 2:47 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by kt0157
Ah. So you did the very un-Canadian thing and spoke up for yourself?



I reckon all the Ontario residents once per year should have a "Work To Rule" day where everyone enforces every stupid law and basically takes the piss. Write the cheques to the minister for 5 cents, demand to see permits for this and that, report every minor incident to OSH, etc.

Perhaps if that was held one day before election day and a "Common Sense" party stood for election something might get done.

K.

We had the "Common Sense Revolution". The Common Sense Revolutionary passed the bicycle helmet law but promised not to enforce it.


you can't make this stuff up!

iaink Oct 5th 2006 2:49 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
We had the "Common Sense Revolution". The Common Sense Revolutionary passed the bicycle helmet law but promised not to enforce it.


you can't make this stuff up!

Do you have a ticket for that one on the wall too?

silver birch Oct 5th 2006 2:50 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by kt0157
Alas that's an urban legend (as are many of others).

Winnebago's own web site

No, it's dbd33's real life examples that are truly depressing.

K.

Phew! pleased there aren't people that stupid :D

iaink Oct 5th 2006 2:52 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by silver birch
Phew! pleased there aren't people that stupid :D

Oh, there are...they just cant afford winnebagos.

You know how stupid the average american is?....well statistically speaking half of them are even dumber than that!!! :scared:

dbd33 Oct 5th 2006 2:57 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by iaink
Do you have a ticket for that one on the wall too?


No. I don't have a helmet, none of our family does. There's never been any trouble over it but there is a law requiring them.

kt0157 Oct 5th 2006 3:07 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33
There's never been any trouble over it.

There will be if you're involved in a car accident while riding without one: just try suing the driver for injury compensation and see how fast the insurance company comes back with "you caused the accident by not wearing a helmet."

K.

dbd33 Oct 5th 2006 3:18 am

Re: Would this happen in the UK?
 

Originally Posted by kt0157
There will be if you're involved in a car accident while riding without one: just try suing the driver for injury compensation and see how fast the insurance company comes back with "you caused the accident by not wearing a helmet."

K.

As it happens, daughter #2 was involved in such an accident within the past month, causing much derision from daughter #1 who works in the "head bashed in" trauma unit of a hospital. The police have charged the driver but suing wasn't mentioned. I would hope she wouldn't get involved in litigation; that's a world of hurt and would put her in contact with some vile people. Better to accept one's fate.


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