Why is second-hand stuff here so expensive?
#31
BE Forum Addict






Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,009











Off topic but I do think house prices in Calgary are on a par with the southeast of the UK, so salaries here are in line with the cost of living. On that note, we find that the cost of most things here (in Calgary) is higher than the UK because a) they have to travel further to be delivered here and weather not conducive to reliable deliveries b) no free trade agreement with the US c) Canadian Govt piles on large import duties on a lot of consumables. BUT we don't have a grasp on what the price of things is like in the UK these days.
Calgary is more expensive because it is booming right now (ie. supply and demand). it is not representative of the rest of the country.
And I have no idea what you mean by "b) no free trade agreement with the US" as the entire country is party to a free trade agreement with the US (NAFTA).
#32
BE Forum Addict






Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,009











I disagree.
Food and clothes are not more expensive here (unless you are shopping in bargain basement places in the UK). I found that prices in the UK were basically the same as here, but that was obviously in GBP rather than CDN. Once you do the exchange rate that makes the British stuff more expensive. When you factor in the lower salaries there then food is definitely more expensive. Same goes for cleaning stuff (I am assuming you are referring to household cleaning products as opposed to industrial stuff).
I have no idea about insurance rates back in Britain because I didn't own a car there but my insurance rates here are very reasonable - less than $1000 per year. And gas is cheaper here as well. Plus there is no ridiculous MOT required.
Last edited by colchar; Aug 17th 2013 at 7:08 am.
#33
BE Forum Addict






Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,009











You see far more rusty cars on the road in Ontario than in the UK these days. When I was a kid (30+ years ago) it was commonplace for cars to suffer from tinworm within a few years (or months in the case of my Dad's 1985 Ford Escort!) but looking at secondhand cars in Ontario reminds me of when I bought my first Vauxhall Nova in 1993. Its very rare to see a car with significant corrosion in the UK these days. I still think that many secondhand cars I've seen I certainly wouldn't feel safe driving, whether they are "legal" to drive on the roads or not. It's got to a point when I am considering not bothering buying a car and just renting one for the odd weekend when I want to get away - that's how worried I am at the state of the cars I've looked at!
Try looking at reputable dealers and you'll be fine.
#34
I disagree.
Food and clothes are not more expensive here (unless you are shopping in bargain basement places in the UK). I found that prices in the UK were basically the same as here, but that was obviously in GBP rather than CDN. Once you do the exchange rate that makes the British stuff more expensive. When you factor in the lower salaries there then food is definitely more expensive. Same goes for cleaning stuff (I am assuming you are referring to household cleaning products as opposed to industrial stuff).
I have no idea about insurance rates back in Britain because I didn't own a car there but my insurance rates here are very reasonable - less than $1000 per year. And gas is cheaper here as well. Plus there is no ridiculous MOT required.
Food and clothes are not more expensive here (unless you are shopping in bargain basement places in the UK). I found that prices in the UK were basically the same as here, but that was obviously in GBP rather than CDN. Once you do the exchange rate that makes the British stuff more expensive. When you factor in the lower salaries there then food is definitely more expensive. Same goes for cleaning stuff (I am assuming you are referring to household cleaning products as opposed to industrial stuff).
I have no idea about insurance rates back in Britain because I didn't own a car there but my insurance rates here are very reasonable - less than $1000 per year. And gas is cheaper here as well. Plus there is no ridiculous MOT required.
#35
Forum Regular

Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 38
From: St. Catharines, ON

Happen to know of any in the St Catharines/Niagara Falls area? I've not found one yet (at least one I feel comfortable with) and without service histories I am unwilling to commit serious money to a car. I wouldn't dream of spending a lot of money on a car in the UK without some evidence that the car has had maintenance, i'm not about to start in Canada.
#36
Forum Regular

Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 38
From: St. Catharines, ON

An MOT is not ridiculous imo, its a sensible safety thing. You see some real horrors here, bald tyres, no brakes, rusted frames, at least if there was some form of yearly safety check these road hazards would be controlled a little more and there would I reckon be fewer deaths.
I was surprised at how many knackered cars there are on the roads in Ontario (the same goes for New York State - I saw a Ford Explorer in Top's car park where the frames were so corroded that the thing would have folded like concertina in a shunt).
#37
Forum Regular

Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 38
From: St. Catharines, ON

I disagree.
Food and clothes are not more expensive here (unless you are shopping in bargain basement places in the UK). I found that prices in the UK were basically the same as here, but that was obviously in GBP rather than CDN. Once you do the exchange rate that makes the British stuff more expensive. When you factor in the lower salaries there then food is definitely more expensive. Same goes for cleaning stuff (I am assuming you are referring to household cleaning products as opposed to industrial stuff).
I have no idea about insurance rates back in Britain because I didn't own a car there but my insurance rates here are very reasonable - less than $1000 per year. And gas is cheaper here as well. Plus there is no ridiculous MOT required.
Food and clothes are not more expensive here (unless you are shopping in bargain basement places in the UK). I found that prices in the UK were basically the same as here, but that was obviously in GBP rather than CDN. Once you do the exchange rate that makes the British stuff more expensive. When you factor in the lower salaries there then food is definitely more expensive. Same goes for cleaning stuff (I am assuming you are referring to household cleaning products as opposed to industrial stuff).
I have no idea about insurance rates back in Britain because I didn't own a car there but my insurance rates here are very reasonable - less than $1000 per year. And gas is cheaper here as well. Plus there is no ridiculous MOT required.
Car insurance is also very expensive (and I live in Greater Manchester where I get ripped off for car insurance even though I've got 15 years no claims). When my wife moved over to Ontario last April the cheapest quote she had was $4000! Fortunately this dropped after 6 months to around $1200, but cheap it most certainly isn't.
#38
Happen to know of any in the St Catharines/Niagara Falls area? I've not found one yet (at least one I feel comfortable with) and without service histories I am unwilling to commit serious money to a car. I wouldn't dream of spending a lot of money on a car in the UK without some evidence that the car has had maintenance, i'm not about to start in Canada.
#39
Forum Regular

Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 38
From: St. Catharines, ON

Was the guy open to negotiation? Everything I looked at on there seemed a bit pricey (I looked at a VW a couple of months ago that was dear).
#40
#41
I agree with bats and think food, clothes etc are much more expensive in Canada, as do most others on the forum who've commented on prices. Yes, I do shop at 'bargain basement places', but I can buy all of my children's clothes for less than £150 a year, and certainly couldn't do that in Canada.
#42
limey party pooper










Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 10,000











I disagree.
Food and clothes are not more expensive here (unless you are shopping in bargain basement places in the UK). I found that prices in the UK were basically the same as here, but that was obviously in GBP rather than CDN. Once you do the exchange rate that makes the British stuff more expensive. When you factor in the lower salaries there then food is definitely more expensive. Same goes for cleaning stuff (I am assuming you are referring to household cleaning products as opposed to industrial stuff).
I have no idea about insurance rates back in Britain because I didn't own a car there but my insurance rates here are very reasonable - less than $1000 per year. And gas is cheaper here as well. Plus there is no ridiculous MOT required.
Food and clothes are not more expensive here (unless you are shopping in bargain basement places in the UK). I found that prices in the UK were basically the same as here, but that was obviously in GBP rather than CDN. Once you do the exchange rate that makes the British stuff more expensive. When you factor in the lower salaries there then food is definitely more expensive. Same goes for cleaning stuff (I am assuming you are referring to household cleaning products as opposed to industrial stuff).
I have no idea about insurance rates back in Britain because I didn't own a car there but my insurance rates here are very reasonable - less than $1000 per year. And gas is cheaper here as well. Plus there is no ridiculous MOT required.
#43
Forum Regular

Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 38
From: St. Catharines, ON

Yes he is and he only seems to have decent stuff (or did when we were there). From our conversations, it seems like he has been in business for a long time, we would deal with him again. My oh will only buy a 'deal' so it says something if we bought there and then paid for shipping to Alberta and it was still a deal 

I'm not desperate in the short term so unless i'm 100% happy with the deal i'll walk away.
#44
Forum Regular

Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 38
From: St. Catharines, ON

Less than $1000 a year is 'very reasonable'?! By UK standards that's really expensive - mine is £180 this year and would be a lot cheaper if I drove a car with a smaller engine.
I agree with bats and think food, clothes etc are much more expensive in Canada, as do most others on the forum who've commented on prices. Yes, I do shop at 'bargain basement places', but I can buy all of my children's clothes for less than £150 a year, and certainly couldn't do that in Canada.
I agree with bats and think food, clothes etc are much more expensive in Canada, as do most others on the forum who've commented on prices. Yes, I do shop at 'bargain basement places', but I can buy all of my children's clothes for less than £150 a year, and certainly couldn't do that in Canada.
#45
Forum Regular

Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 38
From: St. Catharines, ON

Mobile phone contracts are also more expensive in Canada. I don't understand why a lot of contracts have "local calls" - its a mobile phone, by definition it moves! The whole prepaid thing as well, I've been into mobile phone stores loads of times and I still can't understand the way it works in Canada. I ended up getting a 7-eleven phone (which is so basic it's like being back in 1998) because it was the only "pay as you go" phone that resembled payg in the UK.




