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Old Mar 25th 2009 | 4:47 am
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Originally Posted by freddyfred
Yes but the selection and pricing is better than any store I've been in UK... mainly the selection.... it's funny to see LCBO have a better selection of English ales than an average TESCO and Sainsbury's

tesco express may only have 3 british ales with stella and carlsburg filling most of the space... which are brewed in the uk now lol
Don’t know which Tesco’s your going too

but every time I go home my mum’s local Tesco’s and Sainsbury’s have a great selection of ales at least four or five times the Best LCBO over here, it’s not uncommon for the beer over here to be half way through its shelf life, at best a few months old, and I sincerely doubt its price comparable on any English ales, and I know my beers and indulge
Now the Tesco express is just a step up from the local newsagent and a basic selection isn’t a surprise

Worth considering though that if the LCBO don’t want to stock it the chance of buying in Ontario is close to nil
and they set a minimum price for beer here, something that doesn't as far as I know exist in the UK
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Like with like, Becks is $2.60 at the LCBO, 8 for seven pounds at Sainsburys. A little over half the price in the UK. Ontario is not a good place for the beer drinker.
Untrue... Ontario is great if you like variety... the amount of money I've spent on drinking in the UK in the last 6 months would last me 2 years in Ontario... On average the cost of alcohol in London is higher than in Ontario and Ontario has a much better selection of poisons
 
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Originally Posted by freddyfred
Yes but the selection and pricing is better than any store I've been in UK... mainly the selection....
You are joking?!? I was in our local Tesco's this morning and there was an entire aisle for beer/lager/ale!! Plus two for wine and another one for spirits.

There'd be even more in a wine warehouse. How much more choice do you need?!?
 
Old Mar 25th 2009 | 5:04 am
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Originally Posted by freddyfred
Untrue... Ontario is great if you like variety... the amount of money I've spent on drinking in the UK in the last 6 months would last me 2 years in Ontario... On average the cost of alcohol in London is higher than in Ontario and Ontario has a much better selection of poisons
Please cite examples of beers which are cheaper at the LCBO than at Sainsburys.
 
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Originally Posted by MikeUK
Don’t know which Tesco’s your going too

but every time I go home my mum’s local Tesco’s and Sainsbury’s have a great selection of ales at least four or five times the Best LCBO over here, it’s not uncommon for the beer over here to be half way through its shelf life, at best a few months old, and I sincerely doubt its price comparable on any English ales, and I know my beers and indulge
Now the Tesco express is just a step up from the local newsagent and a basic selection isn’t a surprise

Worth considering though that if the LCBO don’t want to stock it the chance of buying in Ontario is close to nil
and they set a minimum price for beer here, something that doesn't as far as I know exist in the UK
I used to hate the LCBO but then I came to the UK and realized how spoiled we were in Ontario. Even a large wine store in London doesn't have the selection an average LCBO has. That's the problem with England, no single liquor store to do all your booze shopping, you would have to go to 2 or 3 different stores to get the same selection you get in an average LCBO. A large LCBO would have 4-6 different tequillas and 2 specialty jeno or more. I have never seen more than 3 tequilas in a store here, if you know of one in London let me know because I'm looking for one. Oh and LCBO's website, best thing ever... I drove once for 40 minutes to get a 95 point bottle of wine that was only available in 1 store for 200 kms Nothing like that exists in the UK.. LCBO wins... gg no re
 
Old Mar 25th 2009 | 5:15 am
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Originally Posted by freddyfred
That's the problem with England, no single liquor store to do all your booze shopping,
Alternatively, the problem with Ontario is that you have to drag to a government department to get a bottle of wine, you can't just pick it up in the same shop as the rest of dinner.
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Please cite examples of beers which are cheaper at the LCBO than at Sainsburys.
I'd love to but the alcohol content varies... even Hobgoblin is 5.2% in UK and 5.5 in LCBO so it would be taxed more. If sainbury's had prices on their site I would, otherwise I don't really care enough. You can check if you want.

LEFFE BLONDE M/M
LCBO 487223 | 330 mL bottle
Price: $ 2.45

it's around £1.50 (2.68) at Sainsbury's and I've seen it as high as £2.20 in off-license... now that's the problem isn't it? You can charge as much as you want in UK, LCBO prices are fixed
 
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Originally Posted by freddyfred
Untrue... Ontario is great if you like variety... the amount of money I've spent on drinking in the UK in the last 6 months would last me 2 years in Ontario... On average the cost of alcohol in London is higher than in Ontario and Ontario has a much better selection of poisons
You clearly have no idea about what your talking about

Your comparing the selection of Beer in available in London UK with Ontario Canada
And saying ON Canada is better
LCBO price list http://www.lcbotrade.com/pdf/LCBO_Tr..._List_BRTD.pdf
That is in effect almost all the beer varieties available in the whole of Ontario
The selection in London UK isn’t that limited
 
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The days of cheap beer in the UK may be numbered. There is a proposed law in the making for a minimum price per unit of alcohol.
 
Old Mar 25th 2009 | 5:26 am
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Originally Posted by freddyfred
I'd love to but the alcohol content varies... even Hobgoblin is 5.2% in UK and 5.5 in LCBO so it would be taxed more. If sainbury's had prices on their site I would, otherwise I don't really care enough. You can check if you want.

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Price: $ 2.45

it's around £1.50 (2.68) at Sainsbury's and I've seen it as high as £2.20 in off-license... now that's the problem isn't it? You can charge as much as you want in UK, LCBO prices are fixed
Sainsbury's does have prices on their website, that's how I found out that Beck's is half price there. I expect, btw, that there isn't a variation in alcohol content, just a variation in the manner of expressing the content, the same way that US beers have the same alcohol content as Canadian ones but are labelled as having less.

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Old Mar 25th 2009 | 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by bodgerx
The days of cheap beer in the UK may be numbered. There is a proposed law in the making for a minimum price per unit of alcohol.
Even if it happens it won't limit the selection, that'll still be broader than here.
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Sainsbury's does have prices on their website, that's how I found out that Beck's is half price there. I expect, btw, that there isn't a variation in alcohol content, just a variation in the manner of expressing the content, the same way that US beers have the same alcohol content as Canadian ones but are labelled as having less.
So you mean UK beer is measured differently? Because this doesn't effect Leffe being Belgian. Carlsberg in UK has 3.8% and 5% in Canada... explain? What they call in UK as Carlsberg Export has 5%... I thought it came down to consumption target and economics of transport.

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Originally Posted by bodgerx
The days of cheap beer in the UK may be numbered. There is a proposed law in the making for a minimum price per unit of alcohol.
My guess though that it'll still be at a lower price than here
 
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Originally Posted by freddyfred
So you mean UK beer is measured differently? Because this doesn't effect Leffe being Belgian. Carldburg in UK has 3.8% and 5% in Canada... explain? What they call in UK as Carlsburg Export has 5%
Brewed differently for different regions, abv’s set to suit local tax laws
 
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Originally Posted by freddyfred
I used to hate the LCBO but then I came to the UK and realized how spoiled we were in Ontario. Even a large wine store in London doesn't have the selection an average LCBO has. That's the problem with England, no single liquor store to do all your booze shopping, you would have to go to 2 or 3 different stores to get the same selection you get in an average LCBO. A large LCBO would have 4-6 different tequillas and 2 specialty jeno or more. I have never seen more than 3 tequilas in a store here, if you know of one in London let me know because I'm looking for one. Oh and LCBO's website, best thing ever... I drove once for 40 minutes to get a 95 point bottle of wine that was only available in 1 store for 200 kms Nothing like that exists in the UK.. LCBO wins... gg no re
One would expect the LCBO to have a fairly wide range, given that it claims to be the world's largest buyer of wine and spirits. What racked me off about the LCBO was that, if they didn't want to stock it, you couldn't get it. I had to abandon a recipe in Oakville because the local LCBOs didn't stock Marsala.

The SAQ isn't much better (ours has never heard of Pimms).

I had more than one argument with LCBO staff about the amount of money (taxpayers' money) spent on snazzy uniforms and shopfitting, all of it pointless in marketing terms.
 


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