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Old Feb 16th 2016 | 7:16 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Yes, I did all that. I lived on the Esplanade then moved out to the Beach in order to have room for a trampoline (outside, a house with space for an indoor trampoline is beyond me still). Whilst at the first address I was trudging up University like, and possibly with, the previous poster.
Do you remember that really nice homeless guy who stood outside 500 University. He knew all the regulars, would comment if anyone got a new hair style or ask if you had been sick of he hadn't seen you for a few days.
 
Old Feb 16th 2016 | 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by HGerchikov
Do you remember that really nice homeless guy who stood outside 500 University. He knew all the regulars, would comment if anyone got a new hair style or ask if you had been sick of he hadn't seen you for a few days.
I do not but had long since perfected the steely "don't speak to me" glare. You need that if you're smoking.
 
Old Feb 16th 2016 | 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by chrisbrough88
Again I thought this was a forum to have an open discussion, not an FAQ. We are eligible for EE, last time I did a calculation my score was in the high 400s/low 500s but can't remember specifically. PS I'm a procurement manager, not a junior buyer. Big difference
Well that's one major hurdle out of the way. If you score 500+ points without a job offer then the PR bit of the equation, I would imagine, is in the bag. This seems to be the point at which so many prospective immigrants to Canada fall down. Ironically, if we applied now for PR, although we got in without issue a few years ago, we wouldn't be eligible now (even though we're at the same professional level now we were then). I suppose being that much older doesn't help. Nor does the fact the "list" - as was, I believe not exist any more.
Good for you though and just keep up with the research. In some ways I think this was the good bit. As many have said, either humorously, factually or even sarcastically, the reality on the ground almost certainly won't be the same as the planning/theory (not to say it won't still be exciting/even fun!
 
Old Feb 16th 2016 | 7:51 am
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I've always thought researching emigration via strangers anecdotes, prejudices, egos and assumptions about your own desires/lifestyle to be a strange methodology. It's only likely to muddy waters.

Most factual information can be found outside of forums. Forums should be used for colour and entertainment. Many of us managed to emigrate perfectly well without them.
 
Old Feb 16th 2016 | 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by R I C H
I've always thought researching emigration via strangers anecdotes, prejudices, egos and assumptions about your own desires/lifestyle to be a strange methodology. It's only likely to muddy waters. Most factual information can be found outside of forums. Forums should be used for colour and entertainment. Many of us managed to emigrate perfectly well without them.
Didn't know this forum even existed until already PRs. The banter should be taken for what it is. It's the middle of the day/afternoon for most of us on here who should really be doing something more productive.
If someone genuinely comes onto this forum with "We're planning on moving to Ontario in 3 months time but I probably need a work visa, what will the weather be like, is Canada expensive and do they take Solo?" then frankly, they're fair game for a bit of light ribbing!
 
Old Feb 16th 2016 | 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by HGerchikov
Scotland charges £9000 for English kids though, and as the OP is currently living in England that's more relevant to him.
But if they move to Scotland before Aug 1 in that year for purposes other than education, they pay £1800, same as the Scots and other EU residents.
 
Old Feb 16th 2016 | 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by R I C H
I've always thought researching emigration via strangers anecdotes, prejudices, egos and assumptions about your own desires/lifestyle to be a strange methodology. It's only likely to muddy waters.

Most factual information can be found outside of forums. Forums should be used for colour and entertainment. Many of us managed to emigrate perfectly well without them.


Totally agree. My wife and I moved to Toronto in 1989 knowing very little about the place - having only spent a few hours there the previous year in transit on the way from Niagara Falls to Montreal. We didn't have access to online forums back then and, if we had, maybe we wouldn't have moved to Toronto at all. I'm glad we did move because we had 7 great years in Toronto and it's still one of my favourite cities in North America to visit.
 
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Originally Posted by Shard
Is it that bad? I have been hearing about Toronto humidity since I can remember. I've been to TO during summer on several occasions, but never found it that horrendous. How would it compare to Bangkok or Hong Kong, for instance, both quite humid?
From what I have experienced Hong Kong (not been to Bangkok) is worse than TO from the point of view of how long the humidity lasts (often weeks on end, followed by a brief respite after some rain, and then straight back to humidity again). TO instead has shorter spells of humidity, accompanied by heat and sometimes smog advisories.

Sometimes weeks can go by in the summer though with no humidity at all, but when it comes it can be quite nasty.
 
Old Feb 17th 2016 | 12:03 am
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Totally agree. My wife and I moved to Toronto in 1989 knowing very little about the place - having only spent a few hours there the previous year in transit on the way from Niagara Falls to Montreal. We didn't have access to online forums back then and, if we had, maybe we wouldn't have moved to Toronto at all. I'm glad we did move because we had 7 great years in Toronto and it's still one of my favourite cities in North America to visit.
We moved to Toronto expecting people to speak French. Access to a forum of this nature would have usefully changed our expectations.

chilly_canuck is right to mention the smog advisories, there are occasional government warning against going outside. It's another world, government.
 
Old Feb 17th 2016 | 12:11 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33
We moved to Toronto expecting people to speak French. Access to a forum of this nature would have usefully changed our expectations.

chilly_canuck is right to mention the smog advisories, there are occasional government warning against going outside. It's another world, government.
Similarly, I expected more bilingualism/more people to speak English* when I moved to Qc. Then again, I *thought* I spoke French until I moved to Qc & had to learn a whole other dialect ...

*Ditto when I went to Hong Kong back in the Dark Ages .
 
Old Feb 17th 2016 | 1:33 am
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Similarly, I expected more bilingualism/more people to speak English* when I moved to Qc. Then again, I *thought* I spoke French until I moved to Qc & had to learn a whole other dialect ...

*Ditto when I went to Hong Kong back in the Dark Ages .
Depends where you go dunnit?

Bits of Montreal, the Eastern Townships, parts of my area, chunks of Gaspe and the arse-end of the Cote Nord seem to be more anglo than franco.
 
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Originally Posted by dbd33
We moved to Toronto expecting people to speak French. Access to a forum of this nature would have usefully changed our expectations.

chilly_canuck is right to mention the smog advisories, there are occasional government warning against going outside. It's another world, government.
I think access to the internet in general could have corrected some incorrect expectations without the need for a forum. I'm guessing here but I suspect that forums contain a higher percentage of people who have issues or problems with something than the general population would. Forums attract people with issues, trolls and moaners. I'd guess I would have been more likely to be put off from making a major move by reading a forum than by doing more intelligent research.
 
Old Feb 17th 2016 | 1:50 am
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Depends where you go dunnit?

Bits of Montreal, the Eastern Townships, parts of my area, chunks of Gaspe and the arse-end of the Cote Nord seem to be more anglo than franco.
Yes, of course . And I've mentioned it before that I know a few unilingual Anglos who manage very well in various bits of Qc.

If the Internet & fora as we know them today had existed, I would probably have hightailed it to the French Caribbean while bypassing Canada entirely . And I'd have a whole different lot of stuff to moan about!
 
Old Feb 17th 2016 | 1:51 am
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Originally Posted by MarylandNed
I think access to the internet in general could have corrected some incorrect expectations without the need for a forum. I'm guessing here but I suspect that forums contain a higher percentage of people who have issues or problems with something than the general population would. Forums attract people with issues, trolls and moaners. I'd guess I would have been more likely to be put off from making a major move by reading a forum than by doing more intelligent research.
I suspect forums attract people who have time on their hands and a computer in front of them.

I would think cleric workers, such as ourselves, are overrepresented relative to the general population, retired people and students are overrepresented. People who are actively engaged in useful work are underrepresented due to being out hewing and hauling and such. It's not that they're necessarily happier, just busier.

Horrible though it is to contemplate, posters are likely to be the more literate members of the public. Whether or not the illiterate are less likely to have issues and moan I cannot say, a cursory review of the attitudes of the homeless outside suggests a poor level of both literacy and contentment.

I doubt that fora attract people of a particular disposition but killing time each day reading threads and making the same points over and over may lead posters to a common, jaundiced, view.

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Old Feb 17th 2016 | 1:53 am
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Originally Posted by MarylandNed
I think access to the internet in general could have corrected some incorrect expectations without the need for a forum. I'm guessing here but I suspect that forums contain a higher percentage of people who have issues or problems with something than the general population would. Forums attract people with issues, trolls and moaners. I'd guess I would have been more likely to be put off from making a major move by reading a forum than by doing more intelligent research.
Hard to say. Forums so attract such types, and that can amplify doubts, but they also provide so much practical information, connections, and encouraging examples. I would say on balance they encourage mobility/emigration.
 


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