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Old Mar 30th 2012, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
It would be a fool that kept their application in the backlog that qualified under the current rules, particularly in light of the fact that the more recent applications are processed much faster.
This is true, but those people put the applications in under the old rules - if we had left it a couple of years we wouldn't qualify under the new rules. And mechanics are needed. Maybe applicants should have approved job offers when they apply for PR - that would clear some applications. I suspect lots of people apply for PR assuming 'Oh my job is in demand it'll be easy' when we know the reality is somewhat different
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Originally Posted by Piff Poff
This is true, but those people put the applications in under the old rules - if we had left it a couple of years we wouldn't qualify under the new rules. And mechanics are needed. Maybe applicants should have approved job offers when they apply for PR - that would clear some applications. I suspect lots of people apply for PR assuming 'Oh my job is in demand it'll be easy' when we know the reality is somewhat different
I benefitted from the lowering of the points too. I wouldn't qualify now.

It is my understanding that the highlighted portion of your text is a method one can use to obtain PR if one's occupation is not on the list.

The fact is, having a Federal list doesn't really work. Allowing the Provinces to prepare their own is the way forward, then the list would represent the best of both worlds (I appreciate that PNP covers this to some extent). As with most things in a jurisdiction such as Canada, one has to trade off the Federal versus Provincial thing.

As Rich said above, rules and policies change all the time. It's crap if you are caught out by it, but that, unfortunately, is life.
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Old Mar 30th 2012, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by siouxie
This isn't a list of sought after immigration professions, this is the list where they are trying to expedite qualification recognition.

Pan-Canadian Framework for the Assessment and Recognition of Foreign Qualifications

http://www.credentials.gc.ca/fcro/pr...report2011.asp
Yes, you're quite right, it does! However, the fact that nurses -- to name one profession -- aren't on the targeted list for credential assessment, does seem to suggest that maybe they are no longer in such demand.
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I think I would be right royally p*ssed off if I was in the backlog that is being scrapped. I can quite understand the frustration of people who have put their lives on hold for several years just to be told it was a waste of time and effort.

However, given the situation now, isn't it better to be realistic and give these applicants their money back. Surely that is better than keeping quiet and letting these people continue to put their lives on hold when there is no realistic prospect of their applications being looked at.
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Originally Posted by YoshiPal2010
Yes, you're quite right, it does! However, the fact that nurses -- to name one profession -- aren't on the targeted list for credential assessment, does seem to suggest that maybe they are no longer in such demand.
If you read the rest of that report there are changes in the pipeline or already in force for Nursing Staff - which is why they are not on the list. This in no way indicates that Nurses are no longer in demand.

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplace...2010/fcr.shtml

In 2011, the Canadian Nurses Association completed a project to develop a second online Canadian Registered Nurse Examination Readiness Test and Preparation Guide. These online tools provide information to potential applicants while they are still in their home country and better equip internationally educated nurses to take the national registration examination.

The College of Nurses of Ontario, on behalf of nursing regulatory bodies across Canada, is preparing to implement a national assessment service to increase the capacity of regulators for timely and consistent assessment. The project will also allow internationally educated nurses to begin the application process and take the educational review and validation step while still in their home country. International applicants, who begin the assessment phase overseas, will better understand the steps needed to become a registered nurse and to practise nursing in Canada.

More information here: http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplace...2010/fcr.shtml
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Originally Posted by siouxie
If you read the rest of that report there are changes in the pipeline or already in force for Nursing Staff - which is why they are not on the list. This in no way indicates that Nurses are no longer in demand.

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplace...2010/fcr.shtml

In 2011, the Canadian Nurses Association completed a project to develop a second online Canadian Registered Nurse Examination Readiness Test and Preparation Guide. These online tools provide information to potential applicants while they are still in their home country and better equip internationally educated nurses to take the national registration examination.

The College of Nurses of Ontario, on behalf of nursing regulatory bodies across Canada, is preparing to implement a national assessment service to increase the capacity of regulators for timely and consistent assessment. The project will also allow internationally educated nurses to begin the application process and take the educational review and validation step while still in their home country. International applicants, who begin the assessment phase overseas, will better understand the steps needed to become a registered nurse and to practise nursing in Canada.

More information here: http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplace...2010/fcr.shtml

Also CRNE will be setting levels for IETLS language proficiency as well.
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I benefitted from the lowering of the points too. I wouldn't qualify now.

It is my understanding that the highlighted portion of your text is a method one can use to obtain PR if one's occupation is not on the list.

The fact is, having a Federal list doesn't really work. Allowing the Provinces to prepare their own is the way forward, then the list would represent the best of both worlds (I appreciate that PNP covers this to some extent). As with most things in a jurisdiction such as Canada, one has to trade off the Federal versus Provincial thing.

As Rich said above, rules and policies change all the time. It's crap if you are caught out by it, but that, unfortunately, is life.
I didn't even qualify for the 67 under skilled FSW so came over on TWP and pushed the points up that way.

You do what you can to get in whatever way you can.
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Old Mar 30th 2012, 7:41 pm
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Default Re: Refund for those in the backlog

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I benefitted from the lowering of the points too. I wouldn't qualify now.

It is my understanding that the highlighted portion of your text is a method one can use to obtain PR if one's occupation is not on the list.

The fact is, having a Federal list doesn't really work. Allowing the Provinces to prepare their own is the way forward, then the list would represent the best of both worlds (I appreciate that PNP covers this to some extent). As with most things in a jurisdiction such as Canada, one has to trade off the Federal versus Provincial thing.

As Rich said above, rules and policies change all the time. It's crap if you are caught out by it, but that, unfortunately, is life.
We qualified before the lowering of the points (or should I say my husband did, I just tagged along). I think all applicants should have an approved job offer and be some sort of skilled, not just those that are not on a list as quite often it's jobs not on the list that employers want. I feel bad for those that might end up scrapped, I remember the heartache of waiting for confirmation of PR, but then we did something about the wait and came out on WP's whilst the PR was being preocessed.
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Originally Posted by Piff Poff
I think all applicants should have an approved job offer and be some sort of skilled, not just those that are not on a list as quite often it's jobs not on the list that employers want. .
I belive this is the long term objective, if you have a job you'll get in and a much faster route to PR...
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I belive this is the long term objective, if you have a job you'll get in and a much faster route to PR...
this makes a lot of sense, and is far more responsive to actual labour market needs than the old system.
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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
this makes a lot of sense, and is far more responsive to actual labour market needs than the old system.
I agree
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I agree
If immigration policy was only aimed at fulfilling labour market needs, I wouldn't be here, and nor would you. Or several others I could mention.

Perhaps this would have been a good thing.
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I am saddened to hear this formal annoucement. I have friends who applied in 2007, who are just sat in the queue waiting. I can remember how anxious I was on the other side waiting for my application to be processed. One thing this whole farce of the backlog has highlighted to many of us on here. Is that we are very lucky, and there are thousands of people who would love to be where we are now. I feel their pain as there dream is being shattered.
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