Is it REALLY much better????
Jun 15th 2012, 4:21 pm
#106
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Re: Is it REALLY much better????
So, having one of those moments...
What my wife and I have/could potentially have here in the uk, in the cold light of day is.... pretty ok
We are pursuing a life in Canada. (for all the reasons most people emigrate for....) i.e. "cos its better!"
But will it really be that much better and worth all the years of stress... and money ??
What we want from Canada is to secure good careers, give ourselves and our kids a nice house, in a nice part of town, access to the outdoors and to a city etc...
But we actually have that HERE ! And its just not 'enough'...
So why are we not satisfied? Is it because we have been villifying this place so much over the years we rarely see the good?
Am I the only one in the history of immigration that is chasing something that doesnt exist?
To the people with the experience and hindsight....
HOW do I get these rose tinted glasses off and dampen the adventurous feeling that 'something out there is better' ?!
What my wife and I have/could potentially have here in the uk, in the cold light of day is.... pretty ok
We are pursuing a life in Canada. (for all the reasons most people emigrate for....) i.e. "cos its better!"
But will it really be that much better and worth all the years of stress... and money ??
What we want from Canada is to secure good careers, give ourselves and our kids a nice house, in a nice part of town, access to the outdoors and to a city etc...
But we actually have that HERE ! And its just not 'enough'...
So why are we not satisfied? Is it because we have been villifying this place so much over the years we rarely see the good?
Am I the only one in the history of immigration that is chasing something that doesnt exist?
To the people with the experience and hindsight....
HOW do I get these rose tinted glasses off and dampen the adventurous feeling that 'something out there is better' ?!
Jun 15th 2012, 4:21 pm
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Re: Is it REALLY much better????
Maybe it's the looming parenthood that's switching on some extra brain receptors
Jun 15th 2012, 4:22 pm
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Re: Is it REALLY much better????
+1. My grandparents never managed to afford to buy their own house, as much as they tried. The difference was they didn't blame anybody else for that fact.
I worked 3 jobs for years and years to save up a deposit for my first home, which was a wreck and a repossession (the only thing I could afford). It never crossed my mind to blame my parents for that.
I worked 3 jobs for years and years to save up a deposit for my first home, which was a wreck and a repossession (the only thing I could afford). It never crossed my mind to blame my parents for that.
Jun 15th 2012, 4:25 pm
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Jun 15th 2012, 4:28 pm
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Jun 15th 2012, 4:55 pm
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Jun 15th 2012, 4:55 pm
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Re: Is it REALLY much better????
And before anyone says it . . . .
Jun 15th 2012, 5:11 pm
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Jun 15th 2012, 5:58 pm
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Re: Is it REALLY much better????
Not like there are in the UK I think. Population density is so much higher than Canada, you don't have thousands upon thousands of people wedged into council flats like there is in the UK. There are some places in Toronto that remind me of it, I have to admit.
What the OP was complaining about appeared to be the proximity.
What the OP was complaining about appeared to be the proximity.
Jun 15th 2012, 5:58 pm
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Jun 15th 2012, 6:07 pm
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Re: Is it REALLY much better????
Originally Posted by alcat2010
But will it really be that much better and worth all the years of stress... and money ??
What we want from Canada is to secure good careers, give ourselves and our kids a nice house, in a nice part of town, access to the outdoors and to a city etc...
What we want from Canada is to secure good careers, give ourselves and our kids a nice house, in a nice part of town, access to the outdoors and to a city etc...
"Access to the outdoors" is something I hear a lot and one of the reasons I moved, well, more accurately I was sick of people living so close together, but the reality is that if you are an outdoors person the weather here has to be a major consideration.
Getting your career going in Canada can be pretty difficult, the govt is welcoming of immigrants and the businesses usually are too, it's the bit in the middle that is the real problem. Professional associations, qualifications, training you must have that you can't get, unions, etc.
All of which is designed to create a closed shop.
I wouldn't mind so much if there was more honesty on that point but the main reason put forward are fluffy statements like "maintain standards" and "best practice" and stuff like that, which I would have sympathy with if you're coming from an LDC, but coming from most parts of Europe, Australia, etc. it's stupid. Because the reality is that Canada is not the gold standard.
You sit there reading through their requirements or in the training thinking: "what a load of crap".
I suppose the more PC way of looking at it is a lack of "competitive dynamism". Or some other buzz phrase.
All I can say is, look at the time spent on provincial free trade agreements because of all the bureaucracy. Says it all really: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...-wine-law.html
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Jun 15th 2012, 6:20 pm
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Re: Is it REALLY much better????
That all sounds a bit vague to me, you need to better define your reasons for doing it.
"Access to the outdoors" is something I hear a lot and one of the reasons I moved, well, more accurately I was sick of people living so close together, but the reality is that if you are an outdoors person the weather here has to be a major consideration.
Getting your career going in Canada can be pretty difficult, the govt is welcoming of immigrants and the businesses usually are too, it's the bit in the middle that is the real problem. Professional associations, qualifications, training you must have that you can't get, unions, etc.
All of which is designed to create a closed shop.
I wouldn't mind so much if there was more honesty on that point but the main reason put forward are fluffy statements like "maintain standards" and "best practice" and stuff like that, which I would have sympathy with if you're coming from an LDC, but coming from most parts of Europe, Australia, etc. it's stupid. Because the reality is that Canada is not the gold standard.
You sit there reading through their requirements or in the training thinking: "what a load of crap".
I suppose the more PC way of looking at it is a lack of "competitive dynamism". Or some other buzz phrase.
All I can say is, look at the time spent on provincial free trade agreements because of all the bureaucracy. Says it all really: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...-wine-law.html
"Access to the outdoors" is something I hear a lot and one of the reasons I moved, well, more accurately I was sick of people living so close together, but the reality is that if you are an outdoors person the weather here has to be a major consideration.
Getting your career going in Canada can be pretty difficult, the govt is welcoming of immigrants and the businesses usually are too, it's the bit in the middle that is the real problem. Professional associations, qualifications, training you must have that you can't get, unions, etc.
All of which is designed to create a closed shop.
I wouldn't mind so much if there was more honesty on that point but the main reason put forward are fluffy statements like "maintain standards" and "best practice" and stuff like that, which I would have sympathy with if you're coming from an LDC, but coming from most parts of Europe, Australia, etc. it's stupid. Because the reality is that Canada is not the gold standard.
You sit there reading through their requirements or in the training thinking: "what a load of crap".
I suppose the more PC way of looking at it is a lack of "competitive dynamism". Or some other buzz phrase.
All I can say is, look at the time spent on provincial free trade agreements because of all the bureaucracy. Says it all really: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...-wine-law.html