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Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 10267473)
I think it's the other way around, I think he's saying that businesses outside Quebec won't deal in French. We know that they do, we've only to look at the nearest consumer product to see that, so I think the idea here is to diminish the value of speaking French to people who don't live in Quebec.
The Quebec companies I deal with mostly have English as the default setting. |
Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Souvy
(Post 10267558)
I'm glad one of us understood what he wrote. I found it a bit contorted.
The Quebec companies I deal with mostly have English as the default setting. |
Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10267481)
Try telling that to the new Premier of Quebec. You could try to tell her something similar in relation to religious symbols too, not that it would get you anywhere:p
I am puzzled by the fact that, it would appear, it is OK to act in a overtly bigoted fashion if you are a politician in Quebec, but political suicide to do so elsewhere in Canada, and not a mention of such made by the "enlightened" posters on this board. The QC view seems to be "integrate or f**k off". The official standpoint elsewhere may be lamer. FWIW, the nastiest examples of blatant racism I have come across in conversation over the last 16 years have been in BC, AB and ON. |
Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by jimf
(Post 10267536)
Putting French and English on consumer products throughout Canada is a different issue. The size of the market and additional cost is obviously a combination that businesses will tolerate. The cost is passed onto the customer anyway.
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Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Souvy
(Post 10267558)
I'm glad one of us understood what he wrote. I found it a bit contorted.
The Quebec companies I deal with mostly have English as the default setting. |
Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Souvy
(Post 10267592)
You don't need to label in both languages in all provinces. If you don't intend to sell in QC or NB, you can stick to English.
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Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Souvy
(Post 10267592)
You don't need to label in both languages in all provinces. If you don't intend to sell in QC or NB, you can stick to English.
http://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/r...3.html#docCont |
Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Souvy
(Post 10267586)
Bigoted or not lily-livered?
The QC view seems to be "integrate or f**k off". The official standpoint elsewhere may be lamer. FWIW, the nastiest examples of blatant racism I have come across in conversation over the last 16 years have been in BC, AB and ON. On the racism issue, from what I have experienced from my travels in BC and AB, racism is just beneath the surface of a huge number of Canadians. I haven't seen massive amount of blatant racism but, then again, I am not a different race or a minority so I may be missing all the clues. |
Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10267895)
The conversations, as they were reported here, over the overt religious symbols appeared to be bigoted to me but I agree that, if one wanted to justify it, one could do so on the basis fo "integrate or f**k off".
On the racism issue, from what I have experienced from my travels in BC and AB, racism is just beneath the surface of a huge number of Canadians. I haven't seen massive amount of blatant racism but, then again, I am not a different race or a minority so I may be missing all the clues. |
Re: Quebec election
I find the bile spewed against the province on this forum kind of interesting.
I wonder whether the people making sweeping and derogatory comments have traveled much in Quebec or have friends there? Or have just read some newspapers. For most people coming from Europe, I'd argue that the political spectrum in Quebec is much more similar to what you'd see in other social democracies than the right-wing approach in the US and even some parts of Canada. I personally find Quebec has a positive influence on Canada in a whole series of ways, from culture to a benign political effect. The TV shows are often better too. |
Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Lemonfish
(Post 10267933)
The TV shows are often better too.
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Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Lemonfish
(Post 10267933)
I find the bile spewed against the province on this forum kind of interesting.
I wonder whether the people making sweeping and derogatory comments have traveled much in Quebec or have friends there? Or have just read some newspapers. For most people coming from Europe, I'd argue that the political spectrum in Quebec is much more similar to what you'd see in other social democracies than the right-wing approach in the US and even some parts of Canada. I personally find Quebec has a positive influence on Canada in a whole series of ways, from culture to a benign political effect. The TV shows are often better too. |
Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10267974)
That's quite an achievement given how high the bar has been set by the rest of the country.
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Re: Quebec election
Whatever you think of Quebec or it's people, you'd be a complete idiot to not realize how messed up things would get in the rest of the country if they seceded.
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Re: Quebec election
Originally Posted by Lemonfish
(Post 10267933)
I find the bile spewed against the province on this forum kind of interesting.
I wonder whether the people making sweeping and derogatory comments have traveled much in Quebec or have friends there? Or have just read some newspapers. For most people coming from Europe, I'd argue that the political spectrum in Quebec is much more similar to what you'd see in other social democracies than the right-wing approach in the US and even some parts of Canada. I personally find Quebec has a positive influence on Canada in a whole series of ways, from culture to a benign political effect. The TV shows are often better too. Interesting that you are looking for an "argue"ment. Also interesting that such a supposedly progressive and cultured place has taken until 2012 to elect a female premier. |
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