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Souvy Sep 5th 2012 12:46 am

Quebec election
 
Apart from the rather unfortunate shooting, last night was pretty good.

The PQ scraped in with a minority government and a share of the vote that was only fractionally higher than the Liberals. It can't do anything without the backing of the Liberals or the CAQ, so separation and dodgy immigration policies are now off the table.

There will be another election before long. I wonder if the Liberals and CAQ will merge? There would need to be some horse-trading on some issues but they are as one on the biggy.

dbd33 Sep 5th 2012 12:53 am

Re: Quebec election
 
<wonders whether to confess to not having seen the acronym CAQ before>

Souvy Sep 5th 2012 1:00 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10265178)
<wonders whether to confess to not having seen the acronym CAQ before>

Very new party. Essentially not PQ or Liberal. Did pretty well.

The acronym was picked-up on by several TV commentators.

Canuck74 Sep 5th 2012 1:04 am

Re: Quebec election
 
The CAQ and QS are separatist. Separation might be off the table. But, the dodgy immigration and language policies will pass. Because the CAQ wants to reduce immigration to Quebec and wants tougher language laws.



Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 10265165)
Apart from the rather unfortunate shooting, last night was pretty good.

The PQ scraped in with a minority government and a share of the vote that was only fractionally higher than the Liberals. It can't do anything without the backing of the Liberals or the CAQ, so separation and dodgy immigration policies are now off the table.

There will be another election before long. I wonder if the Liberals and CAQ will merge? There would need to be some horse-trading on some issues but they are as one on the biggy.


ozzieeagle Sep 5th 2012 1:09 am

Re: Quebec election
 
Outsiders/Visitors question.... Would a staunchly patriotic Francophile automatically shun, or worse, a new UK migrant to Quebec... or is the divide more along a political line and not really personalised ?

macadian Sep 5th 2012 1:10 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by Canuck74 (Post 10265200)
The CAQ and QS are separatist. Separation might be off the table. But, the dodgy immigration and language policies will pass. Because the CAQ wants to reduce immigration to Quebec and wants tougher language laws.

Separate or not...I don't really care one way or another, as long they stop their collective whining!:cool:

Almost Canadian Sep 5th 2012 1:13 am

Re: Quebec election
 
Does anyone outside of Quebec really care? One can only imagine what the posts on this forum would be if such a situation occurred in another Province.

Former Lancastrian Sep 5th 2012 1:15 am

Re: Quebec election
 
So how do Quebecers feel after last nights result?
We have all seen many pundits, experts, analysts etc etc but has the PQ ever come out with the true costs of seperation.
Lets for arguments sake a referendum was held and they won the seperation vote what happens next.
Quebec is now a seperate country so do we assume that the following transpires.
You have your own currency, passports, border controls, fully funded services like healthcare, social assistance etc etc without any aid from the rest of Canada.
All Canadian companies like Air Canada, VIA rail and a host of others can now move their headquarters out of Quebec.
Canada could impose that all citizens of Quebec now need a visa to enter Canada and that you are a safe country and will not accept any refugee claims from Quebec.
Have they really thought it out with a price or do they expect that they will be seen as a seperate country but still enjoy the benefits they receive as Canadian citizens?

Souvy Sep 5th 2012 1:23 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by Canuck74 (Post 10265200)
The CAQ and QS are separatist. Separation might be off the table. But, the dodgy immigration and language policies will pass. Because the CAQ wants to reduce immigration to Quebec and wants tougher language laws.

QS is but so what? CAQ is nationalist, not separatist. Slight difference.

Language laws? So what? This is a mainly francophone province.

Immigration? My reading of the platform suggests cutting out the unemployable dross.

macadian Sep 5th 2012 1:25 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 10265218)
So how do Quebecers feel after last nights result?
We have all seen many pundits, experts, analysts etc etc but has the PQ ever come out with the true costs of seperation.
Lets for arguments sake a referendum was held and they won the seperation vote what happens next.
Quebec is now a seperate country so do we assume that the following transpires.
You have your own currency, passports, border controls, fully funded services like healthcare, social assistance etc etc without any aid from the rest of Canada.
All Canadian companies like Air Canada, VIA rail and a host of others can now move their headquarters out of Quebec.
Canada could impose that all citizens of Quebec now need a visa to enter Canada and that you are a safe country and will not accept any refugee claims from Quebec.
Have they really thought it out with a price or do they expect that they will be seen as a seperate country but still enjoy the benefits they receive as Canadian citizens?

Your last sentence is how many would feel it would probably pan out. Canada (as in without Quebec) would be seen as the new Nations 'best friend'...and would inevitably expect and feel entitled to ALL the benefits Canadians enjoy. Perhaps if it was made clear that if the Province does become 'independent' of Canada...they would be truly independent" That is to say, (after the inevitable 'severance package), their would be no financial input to the new nation thereafter, provided or expected from 'Canada', :cool: it might not seem such a great idea after all to the proponents of separation?

Souvy Sep 5th 2012 1:25 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 10265205)
Outsiders/Visitors question.... Would a staunchly patriotic Francophile automatically shun, or worse, a new UK migrant to Quebec... or is the divide more along a political line and not really personalised ?

A white European that can speak a bit of French is fine. This is true, I can assure you.

alidew Sep 5th 2012 1:30 am

Re: Quebec election
 
Imo it's like when the Scottish Government was re-established and the SNP got into power. While they would love to be independent, it's not happening anytime soon.

We still have Montreal in our sights and like the idea of bringing up our children bi-lingual, as we were ourselves.

Souvy Sep 5th 2012 1:37 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 10265212)
Does anyone outside of Quebec really care? One can only imagine what the posts on this forum would be if such a situation occurred in another Province.

Who is to say that it couldn't happen in another province? It could just as easily happen in BC, AB, NS or NF. One goes; conferederation goes.

dbd33 Sep 5th 2012 1:56 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by alidew (Post 10265251)
like the idea of bringing up our children bi-lingual

I'd say this has been the major benefit to my children of being raised in Canada. It's proven a fantastic asset to them.

Almost Canadian Sep 5th 2012 2:12 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 10265263)
Who is to say that it couldn't happen in another province? It could just as easily happen in BC, AB, NS or NF. One goes; conferederation goes.

I didn't say that it couldn't happen, I was commenting upon what the comments on this board would be if it did happen.


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