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Former Lancastrian Sep 5th 2012 2:17 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 10265317)
I didn't say that it couldn't happen, I was commenting upon what the comments on this board would be if it did happen.

There was pie in the sky talk a few years ago about BC & Alberta joining the neighbouring US states and seperating from Canada.
Its the usual children throwing toys out of the pram if they dont get their own way.
http://www.separationalberta.com/faq.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_separatism

Souvy Sep 5th 2012 2:23 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 10265317)
I didn't say that it couldn't happen, I was commenting upon what the comments on this board would be if it did happen.

If it did happen, which it won't, other provinces would perhaps follow suit.

AB doesn't need confederation. Not this week, anyway.
The Newfs have lots of new money. For now.
BC isn't part of planet Earth, let alone Canada.

Sorry for the slow response. I'm down to one hand today.

Alan2005 Sep 5th 2012 2:39 am

Re: Quebec election
 
I think it would be fun watching Canada break up into small pieces.

Former Lancastrian Sep 5th 2012 2:41 am

Re: Quebec election
 
Saskatchewan & Manitoba plan to seperate.
Err whats Saskatchewan & Manitoba and where is it :rofl:

Atlantic Xpat Sep 5th 2012 2:50 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 10265331)
Sorry for the slow response. I'm down to one hand today.

Another DIY injury then Reg?

jimf Sep 5th 2012 2:52 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10265293)
I'd say this has been the major benefit to my children of being raised in Canada. It's proven a fantastic asset to them.

To be bi or tri lingual would be quite an asset admittedly. Not such an asset if one of the languages is French though.

Former Lancastrian Sep 5th 2012 3:02 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 10265380)
To be bi or tri lingual would be quite an asset admittedly. Not such an asset if one of the languages is French though.

Im happy if the person presenting me with a Canadian passport can speak either English or French however realizing all travellers cannot speak.

dbd33 Sep 5th 2012 3:09 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 10265380)
To be bi or tri lingual would be quite an asset admittedly. Not such an asset if one of the languages is French though.

In Canada it's a huge benefit. Also in France.

Alan2005 Sep 5th 2012 3:24 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10265404)
In Canada it's a huge benefit. Also in France.

Yeah, I see his point as well.

jimf Sep 5th 2012 3:27 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10265404)
In Canada it's a huge benefit. Also in France.

In old and new france a benefit no doubt yes. I've heard many languages spoken in Calgary - french would be right down at the bottom of a usage table. French is a decent enough choice to learn as a second language but it's rather fanciful to believe that being a french bi lingual speaker trumps all else.

Alan2005 Sep 5th 2012 3:30 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 10265422)
In old and new france a benefit no doubt yes. I've heard many languages spoken in Calgary - french would be right down at the bottom of a usage table. French is a decent enough choice to learn as a second language but it's rather fanciful to believe that being a french bi lingual speaker trumps all else.

Learning a second language has benefits beyond just the contexts in which you use the language. It doesn't matter which one.

dbd33 Sep 5th 2012 3:33 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 10265422)
In old and new france a benefit no doubt yes. I've heard many languages spoken in Calgary - french would be right down at the bottom of a usage table. French is a decent enough choice to learn as a second language but it's rather fanciful to believe that being a french bi lingual speaker trumps all else.

The child who has most benefitted from being bilingual in English and French has done so in Vancouver. That's in Canada so it's no surprise to me that it's been a great advantage. Surprisingly, the one in London reports using French on and off, though the biggest benefit to her of bilingualism has probably been that it simplified learning Italian.

dbd33 Sep 5th 2012 3:34 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10265428)
Learning a second language has benefits beyond just the contexts in which you use the language. It doesn't matter which one.

Yes. Speaking French in Canada offers that as well as the direct commerical advantage of being hired ahead of people who don't speak French.

Former Lancastrian Sep 5th 2012 3:42 am

Re: Quebec election
 
Being able to speak other languages is always an asset. I applaud people who are multilingual.
Here is where I have some reservations about bilingualism.
As we all know the Fed Govt is bilingual and employs both unilingual English or French employess and for those who speak and write both languages a bonus of $800 a year.
Using say Winnipeg that has a very large German speaking population in the Steinbach/Winkler area how do the Fed Govt deal with these persons or say Vancouver with Mandarin or Cantonese. Do they rely on the goodness of employees that speak these languages to do it for free or should the employees say compensate us or we will withdraw our services thereby forcing you to pay for interpretation services which Im sure wil cost more than paying these employees.
The bonus works out to about $2.20 per day where an interpreter in my area is about $25 per hour and guaranteed a minimum of 3 hours work.

jimf Sep 5th 2012 3:42 am

Re: Quebec election
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10265428)
Learning a second language has benefits beyond just the contexts in which you use the language. It doesn't matter which one.

True which is why I said French was a decent enough choice to learn as a second language. It's readily available as a taught subject and fairly straighforward for English speakers to pick up as well as having moderately interesting cultural associations. That is rather different from making a case that fluency in French is a huge benefit to anyone. I've never seen a job advertised in Calgary that stated a requirement for fluency in French. No doubt they exist but it would certainly be a niche requirement.


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