Oath to the Queen
May 11th 2007, 10:49 am
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Oath to the Queen
In today's Daily Telegraph there is an article about a guy, a naturalised Canadian, who has gone to court to challenge the requirement to swear the oath to the Queen. This would seem to be a fairly major charter issue. Why can't I find anything about it in the Canadian press?
May 11th 2007, 10:57 am
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I'm sure there are lots of people out there who are happy to swear to the Queen 
Maybe needs to rumble on a few more stages in the system to make it newsworthy in Canada ?
Maybe needs to rumble on a few more stages in the system to make it newsworthy in Canada ?
May 11th 2007, 11:10 am
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Re: Oath to the Queen
In today's Daily Telegraph there is an article about a guy, a naturalised Canadian, who has gone to court to challenge the requirement to swear the oath to the Queen. This would seem to be a fairly major charter issue. Why can't I find anything about it in the Canadian press?
May 11th 2007, 11:12 am
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Re: Oath to the Queen
In today's Daily Telegraph there is an article about a guy, a naturalised Canadian, who has gone to court to challenge the requirement to swear the oath to the Queen. This would seem to be a fairly major charter issue. Why can't I find anything about it in the Canadian press?
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...65508-sun.html
May 11th 2007, 11:13 am
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In today's Daily Telegraph there is an article about a guy, a naturalised Canadian, who has gone to court to challenge the requirement to swear the oath to the Queen. This would seem to be a fairly major charter issue. Why can't I find anything about it in the Canadian press?
May 11th 2007, 11:30 am
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That said, I suppose in this instance he does have a point, Canada is about multi-culturalism; if people here want to be loyal to the Queen, or the Pope, or Osama bin Laden, or <struggles to think of a well known Canadian> or even Hitler, it's all equal, an oath to the Queen doesn't really make sense in the Canadian context.
May 11th 2007, 11:45 am
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May 11th 2007, 11:51 am
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Gosh, I don't think I'd be happy doing that either. I'd feel like a fraud saying it.
be faithful and bear true allegiance to her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, Her heirs and successors,"
May 11th 2007, 11:57 am
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While we're at it, could someone fix the first few lines of the anthem (English version)?
"Our home and native land"?
If it was, I wouldn't be at this ceremony, would I?
"..in all our sons command"?
Sex discrimination.
May 11th 2007, 12:01 pm
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That said, I suppose in this instance he does have a point, Canada is about multi-culturalism; if people here want to be loyal to the Queen, or the Pope, or Osama bin Laden, or <struggles to think of a well known Canadian> or even Hitler, it's all equal, an oath to the Queen doesn't really make sense in the Canadian context.
May 11th 2007, 12:18 pm
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But not an Australian, at least according to the 1995 Commonwealth Parliamentary Library cited on wikipedia. According to them:
"The Queen does not fall within the categories of citizenship by birth, adoption, descent, or grant listed in the Australian Citizenship Act 1948. All Australian citizens are subjects of the Queen in right of Australia. The Queen cannot be her own subject, as one only exists in relation to the other, and the two cannot as such be combined."
Not sure about this really, but it's interesting enough.
"The Queen does not fall within the categories of citizenship by birth, adoption, descent, or grant listed in the Australian Citizenship Act 1948. All Australian citizens are subjects of the Queen in right of Australia. The Queen cannot be her own subject, as one only exists in relation to the other, and the two cannot as such be combined."
Not sure about this really, but it's interesting enough.
May 11th 2007, 1:02 pm
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No oath, no Canada I say.
"I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfill my duties as a Canadian citizen."
What is so hard about that? You want to live here then aknowledge your head of state and Canadian law. Simple.
Some people. So ungreatful.
"I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, Her Heirs and Successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada and fulfill my duties as a Canadian citizen."
What is so hard about that? You want to live here then aknowledge your head of state and Canadian law. Simple.
Some people. So ungreatful.
May 11th 2007, 1:05 pm
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Oh yeah................I almost forgot.............."GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!"
Have nice day Y'all.
Have nice day Y'all.