Moving back to UK
#121
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Re: Moving back to UK
Certainly debt levels in the UK far exceed those in Canada. But its individuals that take on debt, lets not blame either country. The canadian economy is largely resource based (oil, lumber, minerals), with a decent amount of manufacturing still. Its certainly not as service driven as the UK...you cant outsource resources. Canada's immigration driven expansion will in some ways help with any demographic shortfall.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Canada
#122
Re: Moving back to UK
But the services sector in Canada employs 75% of the Canadian work force and accounts for over two thirds of the GDP:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Canada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Canada
Taken from the said Wiki Article.
#123
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Re: Moving back to UK
I am genuinely surprised by this, do you know what the UK is like at the moment?! Take it from someone who had to come back to the UK because of a redundancy in the gold industry (pre $1200/oz). It sucks over here, national insurance is going up, the cost of food is going up, the cost of petrol, council tax, everything. You may get more money in the UK but relatively speaking you'll be spending exactly the same. As for Canadians being two-faced, I'm sure some are... like some brits are, but from my experience they are the most welcoming and friendly people, better than stuck up, rude brits. Besides a good bottle of wine here is a minimum 8 GBP and the UKs national debt is only increasing resulting in the collapse of public services... so think seriously before making such a drastic decision..
My wife sometimes works till 9 pm, once she is in our area (Walthamstow, that used to be a better area only 5 years ago) she is fast walking from the bus stop, while constantly checking behind her back to make sure no one is following her...
Even when you open a METRO newspaper, it is very unpleasant to read these days as every page is about recession, stubbing, killing, raping, yobs ... just name it, all the nasty news.
We decided to emigrate to Canada and our PR is now approved - still love UK, of course, but it seems to us that we will feel a lot safer in Canada, especially once we have kids.
So here is food for though - think really well, do not allow your hart to rule your mind, you may be just home sick, go on holiday and, if it does not help, then leave Canada.
Last edited by Powermantic; Jan 13th 2010 at 8:24 am. Reason: gramma
#124
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Re: Moving back to UK
This is very true - I love UK but lets admit it guys it is getting worse. Perhaps some of you lived in the small towns or villages, that have close and friendly communities, but I have lived in London for 10 years and the place is getting scary.
My wife some times works till 9 pm, once she is in our area (Walthamstow, that used to be a better area only 5 years ago) she is fast walking from the bus stop, while constantly checking behind her back to make sure no one is following her...
Even when you open a METRO newspaper, it is very unpleasant to read these days as every page is about recession, stubbing, killing, raping, yobs ... just name it, all the nasty news.
We decided to emigrate to Canada and our PR is now approved - still love UK of course but it seems to us that we will feel a lot safer in Canada, especially once we have a children
So here is food for though - think really well, do not allow your hart to rule your mind, you may be just home sick, go on holiday and, if it does not help, then leave Canada.
My wife some times works till 9 pm, once she is in our area (Walthamstow, that used to be a better area only 5 years ago) she is fast walking from the bus stop, while constantly checking behind her back to make sure no one is following her...
Even when you open a METRO newspaper, it is very unpleasant to read these days as every page is about recession, stubbing, killing, raping, yobs ... just name it, all the nasty news.
We decided to emigrate to Canada and our PR is now approved - still love UK of course but it seems to us that we will feel a lot safer in Canada, especially once we have a children
So here is food for though - think really well, do not allow your hart to rule your mind, you may be just home sick, go on holiday and, if it does not help, then leave Canada.
Was driving my van recently and guess what they are talking about on the radio?! - Due to recession and high rates of unemployment there had been rise in the amounts of violent burglaries, regardless whether someone is or is not inside the house... So, they gave an advise- to get a good local builder, who could fit strong locks on the bathroom doors, in case of someone braking into your house you can hide with your family in the bathroom!!! Additionally, they advise to keep a bottle of water and a charged mobile phone in the bathroom, too - scary staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by Powermantic; Jan 13th 2010 at 8:03 am. Reason: gramma
#125
Re: Moving back to UK
How is the burgalary violent when nobody is in the house. Are the burglars just then violent towards each other?
#126
Re: Moving back to UK
This is very true - I love UK but lets admit it guys it is getting worse. Perhaps some of you lived in the small towns or villages, that have close and friendly communities, but I have lived in London for 10 years and the place is getting scary.
My wife sometimes works till 9 pm, once she is in our area (Walthamstow, that used to be a better area only 5 years ago) she is fast walking from the bus stop, while constantly checking behind her back to make sure no one is following her...
Even when you open a METRO newspaper, it is very unpleasant to read these days as every page is about recession, stubbing, killing, raping, yobs ... just name it, all the nasty news.
We decided to emigrate to Canada and our PR is now approved - still love UK, of course, but it seems to us that we will feel a lot safer in Canada, especially once we have kids.
So here is food for though - think really well, do not allow your hart to rule your mind, you may be just home sick, go on holiday and, if it does not help, then leave Canada.
My wife sometimes works till 9 pm, once she is in our area (Walthamstow, that used to be a better area only 5 years ago) she is fast walking from the bus stop, while constantly checking behind her back to make sure no one is following her...
Even when you open a METRO newspaper, it is very unpleasant to read these days as every page is about recession, stubbing, killing, raping, yobs ... just name it, all the nasty news.
We decided to emigrate to Canada and our PR is now approved - still love UK, of course, but it seems to us that we will feel a lot safer in Canada, especially once we have kids.
So here is food for though - think really well, do not allow your hart to rule your mind, you may be just home sick, go on holiday and, if it does not help, then leave Canada.
Also, might i advise you to not read the trashy newspapers. I don't and it's very refreshing. It makes you realise the doom and gloom is in text only, not reality.
#127
Re: Moving back to UK
Oh, and another one!
Was driving my van recently and guess what they are talking about on the radio?! - Due to recession and high rates of unemployment there had been rise in the amounts of violent burglaries, regardless whether someone is or is not inside the house... So, they gave an advise- to get a good local builder, who could fit strong locks on the bathroom doors, in case of someone braking into your house you can hide with your family in the bathroom!!! Additionally, they advise to keep a bottle of water and a charged mobile phone in the bathroom, too - scary staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was driving my van recently and guess what they are talking about on the radio?! - Due to recession and high rates of unemployment there had been rise in the amounts of violent burglaries, regardless whether someone is or is not inside the house... So, they gave an advise- to get a good local builder, who could fit strong locks on the bathroom doors, in case of someone braking into your house you can hide with your family in the bathroom!!! Additionally, they advise to keep a bottle of water and a charged mobile phone in the bathroom, too - scary staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surely many violent criminals aren't affected by unemployment because they're not employed in the first place.
#128
Re: Moving back to UK
I'm in SW London and feel safe. Try moving out of the dirty SE London and you may be more comfortable. Canada is a long and expensive way to go just to feel safe.
Also, might i advise you to not read the trashy newspapers. I don't and it's very refreshing. It makes you realise the doom and gloom is in text only, not reality.
Also, might i advise you to not read the trashy newspapers. I don't and it's very refreshing. It makes you realise the doom and gloom is in text only, not reality.
Absolutely, I live in Central Manchester and I can't imagine many safer places to live in the Western world. I virtually never even see any sort of crime, nevermind risk being a victim of it.
#129
Re: Moving back to UK
Again, this is very true. They're not exactly going to be made redundant from the dole queue are they.
#130
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Re: Moving back to UK
Of course not every unemployed person is a thieve, but It seems statistics demonstrate an increase in crime and they think it is a result of rising unemployment
I received temporary redundancy notice in January 2009 and was unemployed till July 2009 (well I was doing bits and peaces in the meantime) but unemployment did not make me a burglar.
Last edited by Powermantic; Jan 13th 2010 at 9:20 am. Reason: gramma
#131
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Re: Moving back to UK
Anyway - I wrote this only to say to those that immigrated to Canada something like 10-20 years ago, that UK is a bit different now from what you remember and give it an extra thought before selling your property and pulling out your kids from Canadian schools.
I guess the old saying "grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" speaks for itself.
I guess the old saying "grass is always greener on the other side of the fence" speaks for itself.
#132
Re: Moving back to UK
Oh, and another one!
Was driving my van recently and guess what they are talking about on the radio?! - Due to recession and high rates of unemployment there had been rise in the amounts of violent burglaries, regardless whether someone is or is not inside the house... So, they gave an advise- to get a good local builder, who could fit strong locks on the bathroom doors, in case of someone braking into your house you can hide with your family in the bathroom!!! Additionally, they advise to keep a bottle of water and a charged mobile phone in the bathroom, too - scary staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was driving my van recently and guess what they are talking about on the radio?! - Due to recession and high rates of unemployment there had been rise in the amounts of violent burglaries, regardless whether someone is or is not inside the house... So, they gave an advise- to get a good local builder, who could fit strong locks on the bathroom doors, in case of someone braking into your house you can hide with your family in the bathroom!!! Additionally, they advise to keep a bottle of water and a charged mobile phone in the bathroom, too - scary staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#133
Re: Moving back to UK
In 3 years in Manchester I was burgled twice and witnessed easily a dozen violent assaults.
Perhaps it's nicer to live than Liverpool but that's it.
#134
Re: Moving back to UK
I'm in SW London and feel safe. Try moving out of the dirty SE London and you may be more comfortable. Canada is a long and expensive way to go just to feel safe.
Also, might i advise you to not read the trashy newspapers. I don't and it's very refreshing. It makes you realise the doom and gloom is in text only, not reality.
Also, might i advise you to not read the trashy newspapers. I don't and it's very refreshing. It makes you realise the doom and gloom is in text only, not reality.
Rediculously expensive property and quite congested but I really enjoyed living in Clapham for two years.
#135
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Re: Moving back to UK
Oh, and another one!
Was driving my van recently and guess what they are talking about on the radio?! - Due to recession and high rates of unemployment there had been rise in the amounts of violent burglaries, regardless whether someone is or is not inside the house... So, they gave an advise- to get a good local builder, who could fit strong locks on the bathroom doors, in case of someone braking into your house you can hide with your family in the bathroom!!! Additionally, they advise to keep a bottle of water and a charged mobile phone in the bathroom, too - scary staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was driving my van recently and guess what they are talking about on the radio?! - Due to recession and high rates of unemployment there had been rise in the amounts of violent burglaries, regardless whether someone is or is not inside the house... So, they gave an advise- to get a good local builder, who could fit strong locks on the bathroom doors, in case of someone braking into your house you can hide with your family in the bathroom!!! Additionally, they advise to keep a bottle of water and a charged mobile phone in the bathroom, too - scary staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wake up guys, there are still plenty of safe places in the UK, lots of beautiful towns and villages. You have to choose carefully where you live.
If you think by moving to Canada you are going to escape crime, well you better think again. Just because a country chooses to hide its crime from the outside world do not think it does not exist there.
This report from 2006 showed the crime rate in Canada to be double that of the US !!
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...4/150547.shtml
Last edited by pgtips; Jan 13th 2010 at 10:29 am.