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Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 4346665)
Aye, every one of them eligable for the Saga discount.
I suspect LHK will love canadian "mix" radio:) Reason enough to emmigrate. I think I stopped listening to new music (rock, I mean) after New Model Army or thereabouts. Bought an Oasis CD as a friend insisted I should listen to them. Wasn't very impressed. Maybe I should try listening to them again, but... |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by LHK
(Post 4346999)
Iaink,
I think I stopped listening to new music (rock, I mean) after New Model Army or thereabouts. Bought an Oasis CD as a friend insisted I should listen to them. Wasn't very impressed. Maybe I should try listening to them again, but... |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by YYZlover
(Post 4346966)
My point is - what does sexual preferences have to do with anything?
"Every good gold digger's Gonna wind up there Every Playboy bunny With her bleach blond hair" "Get a front door key to the Playboy mansion Gonna date a centerfold that loves to Blow my money for me (So how you gonna do it?)" the references to Playboy and centrefolds advance a misogynistic view of women as being the playthings of men, this is consistent with their choice of "wife beater" clothing. It seems to me that the use of the first person conveys the view on the part of the lyricist that he will be the one dominating the women (one may make a corrolary here with the work of Curtis "50 cent" Jackson). The reference to gold digging and blowing money suggests that the women are complicit in this view and, while stopping short of overt prostitution, are content to trade favours for financial benefits. We may see the choice of the word "blow" as a not quite overt statement of the nature of the relationship (let me know if you like me to expand on this point - I can hardly help it anyway). The final line quoted may refer to the manner of spending money but, in this context, I think it fair to assume that the "it" referred to is the act of coitus. We could confirm that by looking for dribbling spittle when the "singer" delivers the line. All in all then we have a juvenile fantasy delivered with great pomposity by leather clad men with a swagger reminiscent of a pitcher scratching his nuts. I suggest that there would be irony, as in an incongruity between the spoken and the actual, if they were, in fact, a bunch of flaming faggots. |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 4346944)
The joy of being ancient is that I saw Jethro Tull, Yes, Pink Floyd, ELP and many other dinosaur bands but cleansed myself with "Anarchy in the UK".
Never got into punk rock myself - maybe I didn't try very hard... :blink: |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 4347016)
Excerts from the lyric:
"Every good gold digger's Gonna wind up there Every Playboy bunny With her bleach blond hair" "Get a front door key to the Playboy mansion Gonna date a centerfold that loves to Blow my money for me (So how you gonna do it?)" the references to Playboy and centrefolds advance a misogynistic view of women as being the playthings of men, this is consistent with their choice of "wife beater" clothing. It seems to me that the use of the first person conveys the view on the part of the lyricist that he will be the one dominating the women (one may make a corrolary here with the work of Curtis "50 cent" Jackson). The reference to gold digging and blowing money suggests that the women are complicit in this view and, while stopping short of overt prostitution, are content to trade favours for financial benefits. We may see the choice of the word "blow" as a not quite overt statement of the nature of the relationship (let me know if you like me to expand on this point - I can hardly help it anyway). The final line quoted may refer to the manner of spending money but, in this context, I think it fair to assume that the "it" referred to is the act of coitus. We could confirm that by looking for dribbling spittle when the "singer" delivers the line. All in all then we have a juvenile fantasy delivered with great pomposity by leather clad men with a swagger reminiscent of a pitcher scratching his nuts. I suggest that there would be irony, as in an incongruity between the spoken and the actual, if they were, in fact, a bunch of flaming faggots. |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 4347043)
Excellent, take an MA in media studies on your way out:D
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Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 4347058)
I'd laugh if I weren't really financing such a "qualification".
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Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by YYZlover
(Post 4346017)
Good luck to you. T'ronno is the best city in the world. :p |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by LHK
(Post 4346999)
Iaink,
I think I stopped listening to new music (rock, I mean) after New Model Army or thereabouts. Bought an Oasis CD as a friend insisted I should listen to them. Wasn't very impressed. Maybe I should try listening to them again, but... May I introduce you to Godspeed You ! Black Emperor et al. Now sadly defunct, possibly temporarily, they have many a spin off and derivative. Canadian, too, which is nice. The dark black underground, not the plaid-clad AOR overground. Seek and ye shall find: http://www.cstrecords.com/ http://brainwashed.com/ Rich |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 4347043)
Excellent, take an MA in media studies on your way out:D
"Isn't this lyric about so and so" "This must be about drugs" "This certainly means...." It's music. It is meant to be entertainment. There is no reason to go all ga-ga and pick everything apart. It's not like any song lyric is meant to be world class poetry. Sometimes there is a srious message in there. Sometimes the lyric is just written to create a controversy so the (insert band name) gets talked about in press and on the internet On the other hand - dbd33 must know Nickelback very well considering the ability to qoute and then go in to an in depth analysis of the content. I work in the business and can honestly not care less if an artist is gay, lesbian, transsexual, straight, left wing, right wing, atheist, christian, jewish.... you get the pic. If the music is good, the performance is good it's just good. Having said that, I don't condone neo-nazi music, I refuse to buy any compilation CD that contain Gary Glitter songs and there are aspects of Marilyn Manson I just can't stand. Then again, when he was confronted during an interview if he really believed everything he's been saying in the past all he did was smile and say "If it sells records." That man may or may not be a total nut-case but he sure is one heck of a marketing guy. |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by Rich_007
(Post 4347137)
Ah....you need post-rock. Oasis and the like will cure nothing.
I also never thought I'd say I'm a total fan of Tool. But I am. |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
(Post 4347113)
Liar. :mad: :frown:
:p |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by YYZlover
(Post 4347211)
Some people just analyze everything to death. I don't see the reason why. I see it on a daily basis when dealing with fans of my clients.
"Isn't this lyric about so and so" "This must be about drugs" "This certainly means...." It's music. It is meant to be entertainment. There is no reason to go all ga-ga and pick everything apart. It's not like any song lyric is meant to be world class poetry. Sometimes there is a srious message in there. Sometimes the lyric is just written to create a controversy so the (insert band name) gets talked about in press and on the internet On the other hand - dbd33 must know Nickelback very well considering the ability to qoute and then go in to an in depth analysis of the content. I work in the business and can honestly not care less if an artist is gay, lesbian, transsexual, straight, left wing, right wing, atheist, christian, jewish.... you get the pic. If the music is good, the performance is good it's just good. Having said that, I don't condone neo-nazi music, I refuse to buy any compilation CD that contain Gary Glitter songs and there are aspects of Marilyn Manson I just can't stand. Then again, when he was confronted during an interview if he really believed everything he's been saying in the past all he did was smile and say "If it sells records." That man may or may not be a total nut-case but he sure is one heck of a marketing guy. I know Nickleback because they are cancon. Also Celine Dion, the bratty girl from near Belleville and Nellie Furtado. |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 4347226)
the bratty girl from near Belleville
Besides she up and ****ed of the the states first chance she got too.:p |
Re: To moderators: Is it OK for non-Brits to post here?
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 4347231)
Dont be dissin our Avril...Flashman will be around to defend her honour!
Besides she up and ****ed of the the states first chance she got too.:p I used to find her songs quite jolly but she gets on my tits now. It was the spitting that put me off, she spits in such an affected po-mo kind of way. |
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