Yep, it does depend on where you are ... mine is usually attached to a long retractable leash but I took her to the local fish hatchery today where they don't mind well behaved mutts ... she does look a bit 'psycho' tho

Yes, I would say so. Lions have not been domesticated have they. they are still operating on the law of the jungle where humans could be dinner.

So, what about dog breeds known to be inherently more aggressive?

I take it you haven't been on many buses in a city at rushhour then... Packed in like sardines doesn't accurately describe it. There is no way you could move away if you didn't like the dog next to you because there is nowhere to go.
Are you suitably qualified to make an online diagnosis of someones mental state?

MAybe not an anaphylactic reaction, but what about asthma? People can and do DIE from that if it is untreated... and it can be caused by allergies to dogs.

I am allergic to dogs, my kids are allergic to dogs.

Funny thing is, I do like dogs but I also like being able to breathe.

thats gonna make me worry now!

I like nothing better to see my dogs running around and when in uk did regularly drive them to woods and fields for them to do that, but at the same time i do appreciate i have 2 boxers that although i know them, they do look mennacing, they're clumsy, big an bouncy an can alarming if they both came charging towards you, especially if you were takin a nice stroll with your kids, though i know the dogs intention would be just from pure nosiness i have respect for other people i deem myself to be a sensible dog owner and they would go straight on the lead or made to sit an wait for the other persons to pass, its called pet responsibility and at the end of the day plain good manners.

its obvious you are a dog lover which is great an you are obviously a big softie when it comes to them which is lovely, but sometimes common sense has to overide that.

At / TC / Canadaian Affair do take dogs but its via the cargo arm . .so its not on the resi web site. . . I have the link somewhere - will dig it out

my dog story
they both had a rabies shot (well 2 as our vets view is that 1 should work but just in case it doesn't its best to have the 2nd a few weeks later to ensure they are covered - also charge you 2 x as much)

each shot was 25 squid per dog. . .
cages / travel crate thing - one I got off ebay, the other via a pet place again on line.

You put them together . . .v simple - I could do it alone!

One of the ebay sellers, plus also BA i think have bits on their web sites that shows you how big the cage needs to be - basically it needs to be taller than them standing up nad they need to be aboe to turn round - scoobs ended up with a "Giant" one.

Air Transat were the cheapest by far and it was all v simple.

I got the dogs checked by our vet on the Tuesday before we flew on the wed and got a "fit to fly" letter for both - again more money - 30 squid each.

Air T charged 695 for BOTH dogs - had to get to cargo - they told me where . 4 hrs before flight - had to write the air freight number etc on the crates, towels and newspaper inside etc. . .

went to cargo, signed and paid and left them . . .


at other end. . . got the paper work stamped by customs etc and some other bits and paid them$30 ish. Then drove to cargo and collected the dogs who were v v v pleased to see us - paid then $60 and that was it . . .

chap was Dave Swift at Air T cargo - TS Clipper I think is there company name


oh yes what i did was look what flight we were interested in then rang cargo and made sure I could book them on that flight . . then booked the flights for us and then rang cargo back to confirm we were all on . . . .

David:

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excellent thank you - in the process of emailing loads at the mo, im in crete an i flew them out here 7 months ago so still have crates - i thought i might have to fly them back to uk (cos prices from athens are disgusting) but was havin a look last nite an may be able to do it from there after all - think i was lookin at peak season prices as for me an my son was jus over 3000 euros! from what it would cost to fly dogs back to uk then uk to canada would be silly so as i say im lookin at athens to canada but not hol season.

There is no excuse for human behaviour, I'm just glad I don't use the bus often.

I also want to say, I love my dog, he is a huge part of my life as other posters know, I can talk about him all day, I love him to bits. BUT before I got Henry, I didn't 'get' the whole dog thing, yeah I was upset when my tortoises and hamsters died when I was a kid, I will be mortified when Henry goes but I also under stand that he is my dog to love and I can't expect everybody else to love him to, I don't love everybody elses dog, yes there are some I'm fond of and I do get annoyed at pointless animal cruelty and with people that have no idea about a dogs need but to put a dog above and beyond is pushing the boundaries really.

I'm having trouble trying to get everyone a reply. I hope I don't miss anyone. I know you won't forgive me if I do.

Alan, No if a dog is unstable it shouldn't be on the bus.Same as unstable people really! Although I would not bat an eyelid if someones rottie or pitbull was on the bus with me as long as it wasn't snarling and foaming at the mouth.


Chookie, I was in London for two weeks last September. I was on the underground at rush hour. I know packed like Sardines (Great Radiohead song)! There were guide dogs at times and somehow the dear old Brits made room for them and I didn't see anyone have an asthma attack.

I am sorry for my seriously mental unstable remark. I just wouldn't like a person who did object without a very good reason....Sometimes I can be a drama queen

Scottandsel, Piff Poff,

Ok I take your points, a big dog like a boxer or a chow can look menacing. It's just that In this country I would like a bit more freedom for dogs. They look so happy when they are running free. In Cornwall last year, we were walking the Cliff paths and saw loads of dogs off leash with their owners. It's much more accepted there.

Then there was wonderful UK story about a Jack Russel, who waited at the bus stop on his own and went a few stops to a pub a few miles away to spend the day. The drivers always stopped for him and took him back the same way. That would never happen in this country. Everybody, loved that dog, bus and pub patrons.

Those pictures are brilliant

Probably because they think he's a bear

And if a person sat beside you on the bus with a snake or a huge spider, for example?

I love dogs but would poo my pants if the latter happened and would be very uncomfortable.

Some people have phobias relating to dogs (irrational fear or anxiety). Some people have reactions (skin, sneezing, etc) relating to dogs. Some transport business owners might even be worried about the potential for dogs to do a huge poo on their property. The same business owners may also be worried that a dog could attack a customer through fear, aggression, or simple defence.

You may love dogs, it's ok that others do not.

Rules are rules and in the same vein that smokers, i imagine, would love to have a cig on a flight, non smokers are happy that this is not possible.

Finally, just because something is set-up in a way that you believe is silly or incorrect does not necessarily make it silly or incorrect.

spooky - was just out walking my hounds thinking bout this thread and had the same thought - I would really have a mild one f some one sat next to me with a dead fish - irrational, I know, BUT I cannot stand dead fish - my kids only get fish fingers or have to go out to a restaurant!

Also my hounds are large- I know they are fine - BUT they can look bloody scary - peeps give us a wide berth sometimes - in rush hour that could choas on the bus.

PS with regard Guide / assistance dogs, that is a totally different matter- people know that such dogs are assistance dogs and are trained to be passive! Also they would be discriminating against people with disabilities if they refused them entry!