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Old Mar 9th 2006 | 3:35 am
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Originally Posted by TrishB
I've just spent some time reading through some of the threads posted here recently and felt that I had to comment - there are some people on this forum that, whenever anyone says they miss something about the UK, they jump down their throats and say things like "Why did you come here then?" and other such nonsense! There is no need for such nastiness and insensitivity on this forum. We're here to help each other through a process of adaptation to a new life.

I'm all for adapting to a new way of life in a new country, but there will always be things that I miss about the UK - Paxo stuffing, Bisto granules, pub grub, rugby, etc - but that doesn't mean I'm not 'making a go of it' here in Canada. Neither does it mean I'm thinking in the past or wishing I was elsewhere.

To all those people who like to shoot others down for their opinions, GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE! Accept that just cos' you've lived here for 10 years or 10 minutes, it does not give you the right to put others down for their opinions or feelings! If you've given up on the UK so much and adopted the Canadian lifestyle, why are you on this forum???? Why keep any contact with British people?

When you've lived somewhere for 20-30 years and move elsewhere, you don't just shut off that portion of your memory and thought processes. Of course as humans we look back - our experiences in the past make us who we are.

So let's just think before we post nasty replies to people that put others down! As I said, we're here to support each other in what for many will be the biggest thing they ever do in life.

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Hi Trish,

Many thanks for expressing this so well.

Take care,

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Originally Posted by TrishB
I've just spent some time reading through some of the threads posted here recently and felt that I had to comment - there are some people on this forum that, whenever anyone says they miss something about the UK, they jump down their throats and say things like "Why did you come here then?" and other such nonsense! There is no need for such nastiness and insensitivity on this forum. We're here to help each other through a process of adaptation to a new life.

I'm all for adapting to a new way of life in a new country, but there will always be things that I miss about the UK - Paxo stuffing, Bisto granules, pub grub, rugby, etc - but that doesn't mean I'm not 'making a go of it' here in Canada. Neither does it mean I'm thinking in the past or wishing I was elsewhere.
To all those people who like to shoot others down for their opinions, GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE! Accept that just cos' you've lived here for 10 years or 10 minutes, it does not give you the right to put others down for their opinions or feelings! If you've given up on the UK so much and adopted the Canadian lifestyle, why are you on this forum???? Why keep any contact with British people?

When you've lived somewhere for 20-30 years and move elsewhere, you don't just shut off that portion of your memory and thought processes. Of course as humans we look back - our experiences in the past make us who we are.

So let's just think before we post nasty replies to people that put others down! As I said, we're here to support each other in what for many will be the biggest thing they ever do in life.

Rant over!
Well said Trish!! Last time I was over in Canada I went on my own and missed home terribly, but the mind plays strange tricks. I was missing things about the UK that I don't even particularly like like Tesco, Jamie Oliver on TV and Eastenders which was very confusing. These pangs of 'homesickness' come from nowhere and seemed irrational considering I was only there for a visit. Now, back in the UK, I pine for Canada and can't wait to leave the UK and start out new life out there, but I know full well I can expect to feel homesick again when we do. It would be nice to be able to "discuss" those weird feelings without getting shot down in flames. I think the trouble has sometimes been that when people are confused by how they're feeling, it can sometimes come across as 'Canada-bashing'.
 
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Originally Posted by Athome
I think you are proposing a simple answer to a complex question.

I agree in general with what you have said about missing things from home being normal, but I think you also have to acknowledge that some people show an obvious attitude problem and should be told to go home. Deciding who falls in what category is a judgement call that each of us has to make. I don't see how what you have posted here is any different than what you are accusing others of doing Trish.

"To all those people who like to shoot others down for their opinions, GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!"

Aren't you doing just that?

"So let's just think before we post nasty replies to people that put others down!"

That you haven't made these comments to an individual doesn't change the fact that you are indeed attempting to tell others what they should and should not post.

Haven't I just attempted to tell you what you should and should not post? We all do it all the time. Not judging is extremely hard to do.
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Originally Posted by Athome
I think you are proposing a simple answer to a complex question.

I agree in general with what you have said about missing things from home being normal, but I think you also have to acknowledge that some people show an obvious attitude problem and should be told to go home. Deciding who falls in what category is a judgement call that each of us has to make. I don't see how what you have posted here is any different than what you are accusing others of doing Trish.

"To all those people who like to shoot others down for their opinions, GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!"

Aren't you doing just that?

"So let's just think before we post nasty replies to people that put others down!"

That you haven't made these comments to an individual doesn't change the fact that you are indeed attempting to tell others what they should and should not post.

Haven't I just attempted to tell you what you should and should not post? We all do it all the time. Not judging is extremely hard to do.
Good point. If the pining becomes apparent to other people then it won't help establishing new friendships, getting a job etc.
 
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Originally Posted by flashman
Good point. If the pining becomes apparent to other people then it won't help establishing new friendships, getting a job etc.
That is true if you were to go around saying how much you miss the UK to every Canadian you meet. However, if you come on a BRITISH Expats site to discuss how you feel about missing your home country with fellow Brits who have gone through a similar experience, then it is understandable to hope for sympathy and for others to feel the same way (especially if you reply to a thread asking about what people miss!).

Maybe once you have lived in Canada for 30 years you are more Canadian than you are British in your outlook and don't really understand how today's British immigrants feel. Constantly telling people to change their attitude and stop whining is insensitive and gets on people's nerves after a while.

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Old Mar 9th 2006 | 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by Athome
I think you are proposing a simple answer to a complex question.

I agree in general with what you have said about missing things from home being normal, but I think you also have to acknowledge that some people show an obvious attitude problem and should be told to go home. Deciding who falls in what category is a judgement call that each of us has to make. I don't see how what you have posted here is any different than what you are accusing others of doing Trish.

"To all those people who like to shoot others down for their opinions, GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!"

Aren't you doing just that?

"So let's just think before we post nasty replies to people that put others down!"

That you haven't made these comments to an individual doesn't change the fact that you are indeed attempting to tell others what they should and should not post.

Haven't I just attempted to tell you what you should and should not post? We all do it all the time. Not judging is extremely hard to do.

I don't believe I'm being judgemental or shooting anyone down directly by telling a faction on this forum to lay off people who may be feeling fragile and wish to reminisce about things from the UK that may help them to cope with being in a foreign country.

I was referring to those individuals who immediately shoot folks down for making a simple comment about something they miss from home - if you'd been around on this forum long enough you would know that there have been many people who've held back from posting due to nasty comments made by some and others who haven't come back.

Take it or leave it.
 
Old Mar 9th 2006 | 3:56 am
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No, just Superstore and they only do the powder.

(I have a tub of granules bought the other week in Blighty, I'm alright, just thinking of Trish )

Ohhh, lucky you!!! Are you about on the weekend of 24th-27th? I'm planning on heading into the big smoke!! Maybe meet up?
 
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you know its not every day you see 'Winnipeg' and 'civilisation' in the same sentence

You try Red Lake for a while - anywhere else is civilised!!!
 
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Originally Posted by TrishB
Ohhh, lucky you!!! Are you about on the weekend of 24th-27th? I'm planning on heading into the big smoke!! Maybe meet up?
Ooh, I just sent you a PM before I saw this!

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Originally Posted by TrishB
You try Red Lake for a while - anywhere else is civilised!!!

I've driven along the highway below you near Vermillion Bay... my wife got caught speeding in Dryden

Very picturesque, but civilization is a long long drive away I fully understand
 
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Originally Posted by Athome
I think you are proposing a simple answer to a complex question.

I agree in general with what you have said about missing things from home being normal, but I think you also have to acknowledge that some people show an obvious attitude problem and should be told to go home. Deciding who falls in what category is a judgement call that each of us has to make. I don't see how what you have posted here is any different than what you are accusing others of doing Trish.

"To all those people who like to shoot others down for their opinions, GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE!"

Aren't you doing just that?

"So let's just think before we post nasty replies to people that put others down!"

That you haven't made these comments to an individual doesn't change the fact that you are indeed attempting to tell others what they should and should not post.

Haven't I just attempted to tell you what you should and should not post? We all do it all the time. Not judging is extremely hard to do.
A perfect summary of the situation (in my opinion!). Outside of being abusive everyone is entitled to an opinion be it negative or positive and we are all capable of a little hypocrisy when it suits. We always have the right of reply and the use of the ignore button should we really take a dislike to a particular individual.
 
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Originally Posted by MikeUK
I've driven along the highway below you near Vermillion Bay... my wife got caught speeding in Dryden

Very picturesque, but civilization is a long long drive away I fully understand
We're another 2 hours drive North of Vermillion Bay at the end of highway 105 - yup! long way from anywhere!! But I wouldn't swap it now I've been here a few months, really looking forward to summer.
 
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I've hardly read any posts for quite some time now and I rarely come on here anymore:

Such a lot of bickering goes on;

such a lot of cr*p is spoken by people who appear to be on a different planet to the rest of us;

such a lack of friendliness;

such a lot of "I know better than you.......even though I still live in the UK and have visited Canada for 20 minutes in the whole of my lifetime";

such a lot of smart-asses who live here and think they know everything about everyone's situation or location;

such a lot of plain nasty people;

such a lot who take every opportunity to put down anyone who disagrees with them;

such a lot of miserable and ignorant gits;



I miss the nice friendly people who are helpful, provide thoughtful reasoning combined with interesting debates - of course this sector of the forum are the majority, but as always, the minority shouts loudest.

I do wonder why some people even bother to come on here anymore. I used to feel that as I was helped so much by some lovely people on here, that it was now my turn to help others as I may have some useful information or experience to pass onto those who are still in the process, or at the start of their life-changing experience, but lately I have no idea what is going on here .......... hence my semi-retirement from this place. I enjoy the PM's some of you guys send me and I love to hear how everyone is getting on, but to be frank, on the occasional visits into this forum, fills me with wonder.

I have a fantastic life here in Canada; I wouldn't change anything for the world, although if anyone wants to donate a REAL Cadbury's Whole Nut and a packet of Dark Chocolate Homewheat then I won't say no! The point is, my real life is so darned good, that coming on here is like reading Nostra Damus!

Anyway, well said Trish - you are right everyone should be entitled to have their say without fear of someone jumping down their throat and telling them what they should feel or what they should eat or how they should lead their lives. Everyone is unique - can't we all just accept that and let those who wish to wallow, enjoy their wallowing; and those who are living on air and excitement, flourish?
 
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Originally Posted by Tiaribbon
I've hardly read any posts for quite some time now and I rarely come on here anymore:

Such a lot of bickering goes on;

such a lot of cr*p is spoken by people who appear to be on a different planet to the rest of us;

such a lack of friendliness;

such a lot of "I know better than you.......even though I still live in the UK and have visited Canada for 20 minutes in the whole of my lifetime";

such a lot of smart-asses who live here and think they know everything about everyone's situation or location;

such a lot of plain nasty people;

such a lot who take every opportunity to put down anyone who disagrees with them;

such a lot of miserable and ignorant gits;



I miss the nice friendly people who are helpful, provide thoughtful reasoning combined with interesting debates - of course this sector of the forum are the majority, but as always, the minority shouts loudest.

I do wonder why some people even bother to come on here anymore. I used to feel that as I was helped so much by some lovely people on here, that it was now my turn to help others as I may have some useful information or experience to pass onto those who are still in the process, or at the start of their life-changing experience, but lately I have no idea what is going on here .......... hence my semi-retirement from this place. I enjoy the PM's some of you guys send me and I love to hear how everyone is getting on, but to be frank, on the occasional visits into this forum, fills me with wonder.

I have a fantastic life here in Canada; I wouldn't change anything for the world, although if anyone wants to donate a REAL Cadbury's Whole Nut and a packet of Dark Chocolate Homewheat then I won't say no! The point is, my real life is so darned good, that coming on here is like reading Nostra Damus!

Anyway, well said Trish - you are right everyone should be entitled to have their say without fear of someone jumping down their throat and telling them what they should feel or what they should eat or how they should lead their lives. Everyone is unique - can't we all just accept that and let those who wish to wallow, enjoy their wallowing; and those who are living on air and excitement, flourish?
Yes. *nods*

I start fulltime work next week anyway, so doubt I'll ever be bored enough to resort to even checking this place out for much longer.

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