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Old Sep 24th 2008 | 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by bluemoon1
I think we are around row 23/24, can't quite remember!

Yes a coffee would be nice, read your previous posts about your reccie, job hunting etc so a bit of advice wouldn't go amiss!!
Your more than welcome to ask advice any time we will have to exchange numbers so we can meet at the airport.
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Old Sep 24th 2008 | 3:55 am
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Originally Posted by babsi
Air Transat won't be around this time next year. I don't know when they will go but they will.

Air France/KLM will be here this time next year and BA, AC, Lufthansa, Iberia, AA etc etc

Why be so negative?
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Old Sep 24th 2008 | 3:57 am
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Originally Posted by Bellanova
Your more than welcome to ask advice any time we will have to exchange numbers so we can meet at the airport.
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yes, i'll pm you in a bit
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 4:07 am
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Negative, more realistic.

I really hope I am wrong because if Air Transat does go then it will push up the prices and the prices are bad enough as they are. Gone are the days when you could get a return for under $500 from Toronto to Gatwick. I remember in the late 90's Canadian Affair had tickets advertised in the papers for just over 100 pounds.

My husband disagrees with me he thinks they will stick around, then I said would you buy a ticket and he said no. Says it all really.

I know if I booked my ticket with my credit card I shouldn't have any problems getting my money back but the thought of being away and having to book 3 expensive last minute tickets back doesn't bear thinking about. I would rather pay a bit more now and have that added security of not worrying when Air Transat will go.

The airline industry is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 4:13 am
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Originally Posted by SirTainly
I flew with TC via CA in 2005, planes are OK, but legroom isn't great. Also if you are flying in winter and you are in the window seat take a pair of sunglasses. After 4+ hours of flying over snow the eyes get rather tired, and the stewardesses can be funny about you closing the window covers for some reason.
Apparently they get funny about window shutters because if you crash they cant see in to rescue people. I heard this somewhere.
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 4:20 am
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The demise of Zoom (four letter word if there ever was) has been a god send to Air Transat/Thomas Cook as now their aircraft are full to the gunnels, the Halifax flights anyway instead of being half full so in the short term I belive it will be able to carry on.
In the long term who knows their prices will have to rise and probably reduce the frequency of flights. But lets not forget now there are less seats available means that the fuller the aircraft the more cost effective they will to fly.
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 4:30 am
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Originally Posted by babsi
Air Transat won't be around this time next year. I don't know when they will go but they will.

Air France/KLM will be here this time next year and BA, AC, Lufthansa, Iberia, AA etc etc
Air Transat, one of the fastest growing airlines in the world with revenues up, passengers up, a very small loss in the last quarter due to the fuel price spike. Increasing routes, buying more planes.

All the large US carriers, flying under bankruptcy protection, guaranteed to lose one of the major ones next year (unless the US pulls more anti-competitive non-free market economy bail outs).

Air Canada. Cutting routes, cancelling plane purchase options, losing money heavily, not long out of flying under bankruptcy protection and maybe go back in.

Zoom had issues with not enough planes, and not enough cashflow. Air Transat doesn't have the same problems at all. They have good cash in the bank, good industry relations. So they cancelled a few flights due to not being profitable, hardly the end of the world or unusual. Air Canada has cancelled whole routes and hundreds of flights for the rest of the year, like most other major airlines.
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 5:06 am
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i have been trying to make sense of the pricing structure, of flights for the past 2 days. I have come to the conclusion that most of the airlines' administration must be on CRACK!!!

My hubby may be needing to fly back to the UK in the coming weeks ( we are waiting on the confirmation from people involved).

So have been on the different airlines quote forms and the price for one way from Toronto to gatwick vary from $240 CND including taxes to $940 including taxes. WOW WTH?!?!

I would be willing to pay a higher price for the peace of mind that would come with a NON-cancelling flight, but I have no idea who is the safest.
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 5:12 am
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Originally Posted by Ben W Bell
Air Transat, one of the fastest growing airlines in the world with revenues up, passengers up, a very small loss in the last quarter due to the fuel price spike. Increasing routes, buying more planes.

All the large US carriers, flying under bankruptcy protection, guaranteed to lose one of the major ones next year (unless the US pulls more anti-competitive non-free market economy bail outs).

Air Canada. Cutting routes, cancelling plane purchase options, losing money heavily, not long out of flying under bankruptcy protection and maybe go back in.

Zoom had issues with not enough planes, and not enough cashflow. Air Transat doesn't have the same problems at all. They have good cash in the bank, good industry relations. So they cancelled a few flights due to not being profitable, hardly the end of the world or unusual. Air Canada has cancelled whole routes and hundreds of flights for the rest of the year, like most other major airlines.
at last, someone who's done a bit of research! Go Ben!

Can the rest of us stop scaring the pants off each other and calm down? We've got flights booked with AT on 5th Nov and I've got enough to think about tying up all my loose ends without the added stress of worrying about my flight. I'd personally prefer to think positive and get on with other things. All this isn't helping....
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by Ben W Bell
Air Transat, one of the fastest growing airlines in the world with revenues up, passengers up, a very small loss in the last quarter due to the fuel price spike. Increasing routes, buying more planes.

All the large US carriers, flying under bankruptcy protection, guaranteed to lose one of the major ones next year (unless the US pulls more anti-competitive non-free market economy bail outs).

Air Canada. Cutting routes, cancelling plane purchase options, losing money heavily, not long out of flying under bankruptcy protection and maybe go back in.

Zoom had issues with not enough planes, and not enough cashflow. Air Transat doesn't have the same problems at all. They have good cash in the bank, good industry relations. So they cancelled a few flights due to not being profitable, hardly the end of the world or unusual. Air Canada has cancelled whole routes and hundreds of flights for the rest of the year, like most other major airlines.
A guy from Boeing I spoke with yesterday hinted at AA.
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 5:23 am
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Old Sep 24th 2008 | 5:25 am
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Default Re: Flight canceled

Originally Posted by babsi
Air Transat won't be around this time next year. I don't know when they will go but they will.

Air France/KLM will be here this time next year and BA, AC, Lufthansa, Iberia, AA etc etc
Have you got a crystal ball then
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 5:26 am
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Originally Posted by fuschiagirl
Have you got a crystal ball
No. But you can pick up a lot in hotel bars, smoking areas and toilets.
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 5:53 am
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I think things picked up in toilets are probably best put down again
 
Old Sep 24th 2008 | 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
A guy from Boeing I spoke with yesterday hinted at AA.
I'd imagine if it's AA then the US will bail them out with billions of public money, like every other company. Can't let the flag carrier go down the pan.
 


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