I'm not so sure. If you think about Brazil its surrounded by Spanish speaking south/ latin american countries, so I would think if you wanted to do export business then Spanish skills would be a significant advantage. Its not like much of the rest of the world speaks Portuguese, but a quarter or more of the planet speaks Spanish, and its not a huge leap from portuguese to learn either.

The point is not missed, if they want to live happily without speaking the host language then that is for them to decide. The point here is that quotas shouldn`t be taken away from eligible immigrants that meet the skills requirement and possess the language skills to adapt to the Canadian way of life and also have the funds to establish themselves in Canada.

"I DOUBT MANY BRAZILIANS SPEAK SPANISH. I BELIEVE THERE`S SOME SORT OF PREJUDICE/NATIONAL RIVALRY AGAINST IT" As for were you got this from or who told you this I don`t know.

I can tell you that Portuguese people that live in Spain speak Spanish very well and at times its hard to distinguish them as not being Spanish speakers!!!

As for national rivalry thats like saying English and French don`t ever to bother to learn each others language. There is certainly a great historical rivalry there.

This last phrase of yours is certainly a strange observation???

Point being that you first mentioned ALL family members, now if the case is just ONE family member then I see no real issue at all and language deficits between all those that speak and all those that don`t speak the host language shouldn`t overly grow.

I think Canadian Tire's marketing copyrighter may be Brazilian.

"Scie va-et-vient" is a ludicrous translation of "reciprocating saw".

That's a bit Eats, Shoots and Leaves-ish.

Sponsorship after the fact is ONE person


Who you bring on your original application could be an extended group of wife and kids none of whom speak an official language. Its those members of the family that change the language dempographoics and bother the redneck element of unhyphenated canadians I think, and really there is no humaine way to descriminate against them at the worker selection point.

I thought you meant this anyway. The extended group that helps the applicant adapt in his new country meaning the wife and children is straight forward enough because the children would learn the host language very quickly anyway.

Nobody is talking about discriminating against a skilled worker that speaks the host language or his dependent family whether the family speak it it or not. The rednecks that you speak of will always be around to discriminate about something anyway, if not this then its just going to be about something else.

The real issue is the falling quotas that FSW face in the future to other classes, when the vast majority of these people have the skills, language and financial resources to establish themselves in Canada straight away.

For example CEC will remove a lot of numbers from FSW quotas but at least applicants in this category are going to have to prove their language abilities, which in effect enforces the original argument that silled workers have to be able to speak the host language to a reasonable level after a couple of years to be eligible to enter Canada.

It is, particularly that there is a perfectly good translation available.

Incidentally, do you know of any good pubs near the Sutton Place?

FSW is a joke though, and the quaota numbers should be reduced to open up PNP places. The problem with FSW is that by the time workers finally are accepted, the labour market has long since moved on.

What's needed really is a total shift away from accepting FSW candidates on spec to widening the provincial nomination programs to be the normal route of entry. If you can convince someone to employ you and you meet the required standards, then you should be fast tracked into Canada ASAP.

I'd probably walk up to the Duke of Gloucester. That's the one that used to be part of the chain until the regulars bought it out. That place Bazzz liked, where a pint is $22, is also near. The Elephant and Castle is less nice but has Fullers on tap and would be close to halfway between here and your hotel.

Excellent, ta. Is the Fullers potable? It isn't in Ottawa's E&C.

Certainly agree with you on the PNP program because the whole idea of it seems to be to address shortages on a regional level hence more accurate than the FSW program. Only problem is, that at times certain regional programs seem to be very unclear and vague in their requirements. For example the BC and AB programs seem to have every job in existence in one shape or form on them but do they really need all these people? If they do, why the long waits and the difficulty in getting there? Whereas Ontario has very little job shortages according to its PNP list but is still the favored destination of immigrants??? Then there is the NS program which states the option of a community identified program for anybody that has ties to the region. Whats this..............a couple of holidays there and becoming a member of the local yacht or bowling club??? Does that identify you with the NS???

All this need to be better laid out for potential immigrants supposedly something the Conservatives want to achieve

So-so. I've always made it back to the office before emitting noises or gases.

Thank you for sharing. Oct 20/21?

Looks very promising.