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Howefamily Dec 29th 2010 8:23 pm

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9066707)
You should be worried about this. If you can't even remember why you're making the move to Canada, you should be asking yourself if it's the right thing to do.

I dont read this as the OP cant remember why they are moving. To me it sounds more like frustration due to the wait and asking themselves if they had every imagined that the stress and the limbo status that they are living in was ever as they expected.
We have been waiting since June this year, which is not long at all, but sometimes that does my head in and memories fade of where we were. We are still in the UK, surrounded by this life and that life that we are striving for in that location that we are aiming for is sometimes hard to imagine in its fullest picture.
You have to keep the faith, memories and friends already out there who are on facebook helps hugely.
Keep going Rubie, dont forget we are here if you need to rant.

MarylandNed Dec 29th 2010 8:44 pm

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 9067035)
I dont read this as the OP cant remember why they are moving.

Well I'm obviously reading it exactly as it was written i.e. "....now struggling to remember why we decided to do this". I've been through the immigration process a couple of times myself. Wait times can be frustrating but a prospective immigrant should never lose sight of WHY they want to move from one country to another. If they do, perhaps it's not the right move after all. Maybe the OP should start right there - make a list of the reasons WHY the move is the right one. This exercise alone should help get the OP into a more positive state of mind which will also help with getting through the waiting period.

helcat12 Dec 29th 2010 10:27 pm

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by Rubie (Post 9066202)
I don't think I have explained very well. No, we are not all sat in the arm chair waiting for the postman only moving for food and water ;).

We are living our lives in the respect of everyday things, routines, hobbies etc etc but there are things that are affected by 'the decision' whether you want them to or not. For example, my daughters choice of course next year will be affected by 'the decision'; I cannot book a holiday for next summer because I don't know whether we will be living in this country (this is not a biggie, just another thing). Also other decisions about things like buying furniture, what to do about our knackered car, etc etc are all made more complicated because we are waiting thus the perpetual feeling of being in a state of limbo.

Like I said, probably made worse because we will relocate elsewhere in the UK anyway. Another decision on hold!


Be thankful for what you have is the key. My OH and I are having to live apart during this process - him working in Canada and me here. At least you can all continue to do what you do and you are together, which is the greatest comfort and the most important thing.
I naturally find it hard to remember why we are doing this because all that has happened for me since we applied is that I have lost my beloved OH of 17 years to the other side of the world! He reassures me regularly that life in Canada is great and we will love it there together, but that is a bit hard for me to see, as you can imagine.
I also have to decide whether to renew my contract at work very soon and the timing is rubbish - I need to decide now what the situation will be at Easter and whether to commit myself until the end of July, which is impossible to predict with timescales from the post June 26th rules applications being so uncertain.
I just thank my lucky stars that my husband is enjoying Canadian life and work (even if it is without me) that we have Skype, that our app is in and running, that we aren't struggling for money even paying two lots of living expenses and that the timescales for PR are no longer 4 years!
I suggest that you do the same and focus on what you have that is good - OK, some decisions might be a little more difficult to call but that is the nature of the beast and we all have to deal with that. It might be little comfort, but it is more than some people have got:)

Rubie Dec 29th 2010 10:48 pm

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9066707)
You should be worried about this. If you can't even remember why you're making the move to Canada, you should be asking yourself if it's the right thing to do.

Don't worry I am. I really am. I have just had the most stressful week and my instincts are telling me at the moment to settle back down as soon as possible and get some stability back into our lives. That said, I know that under different circumstances my outlook is totally different and I am trying to get myself back into that state of mind - this is why I also agree with Howefamily as below in that the frustration of the wait and not knowing does not help under these circumstances which is something experienced by all.


Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 9067035)
I dont read this as the OP cant remember why they are moving. To me it sounds more like frustration due to the wait and asking themselves if they had every imagined that the stress and the limbo status that they are living in was ever as they expected.
We have been waiting since June this year, which is not long at all, but sometimes that does my head in and memories fade of where we were. We are still in the UK, surrounded by this life and that life that we are striving for in that location that we are aiming for is sometimes hard to imagine in its fullest picture.
You have to keep the faith, memories and friends already out there who are on facebook helps hugely.
Keep going Rubie, dont forget we are here if you need to rant.


Originally Posted by helcat12 (Post 9067178)
Be thankful for what you have is the key. My OH and I are having to live apart during this process - him working in Canada and me here. At least you can all continue to do what you do and you are together, which is the greatest comfort and the most important thing.
I naturally find it hard to remember why we are doing this because all that has happened for me since we applied is that I have lost my beloved OH of 17 years to the other side of the world! He reassures me regularly that life in Canada is great and we will love it there together, but that is a bit hard for me to see, as you can imagine.
I also have to decide whether to renew my contract at work very soon and the timing is rubbish - I need to decide now what the situation will be at Easter and whether to commit myself until the end of July, which is impossible to predict with timescales from the post June 26th rules applications being so uncertain.
I just thank my lucky stars that my husband is enjoying Canadian life and work (even if it is without me) that we have Skype, that our app is in and running, that we aren't struggling for money even paying two lots of living expenses and that the timescales for PR are no longer 4 years!
I suggest that you do the same and focus on what you have that is good - OK, some decisions might be a little more difficult to call but that is the nature of the beast and we all have to deal with that. It might be little comfort, but it is more than some people have got:)

I'm not really sure how to take this and I'm not entirely sure it deserves an answer! You don't really explain the circumstances under which you have been forced to live apart during this process and it's therefore difficult to see from what perspective you are seeing this thread. Surely you had some choice?

I do however have sympathy with decisions you have to make as they are the kind of things that seem to have dogged our wait.

Howefamily Dec 29th 2010 11:02 pm

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 
Everyone has their own issues with this whole emigration lark, some are waiting in rented accom for PR and the chance to go, some have gone already as visitors and have bitten nails to the quick in the hope that the gamble pays off and meds are all ok, some are living apart.
I think everyones personal worries and frustrations are as important as the next persons.
It certainly forces you to the brink of patience and dealing with your own uncertainties and worries.
There are people out there that wouldnt even conceive the idea of emigration and say "lucky you, I am not that brave" I hear that alot, they also are unable to leave their loved ones here.

I am glad I am "brave enough" to do it, not tied emotionally here anymore and have some great new friends waiting for us.

engineer80 Dec 30th 2010 12:22 am

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by Howefamily (Post 9067230)
Everyone has their own issues with this whole emigration lark, some are waiting in rented accom for PR and the chance to go, some have gone already as visitors and have bitten nails to the quick in the hope that the gamble pays off and meds are all ok, some are living apart.
I think everyones personal worries and frustrations are as important as the next persons.
It certainly forces you to the brink of patience and dealing with your own uncertainties and worries.
There are people out there that wouldnt even conceive the idea of emigration and say "lucky you, I am not that brave" I hear that alot, they also are unable to leave their loved ones here.

I am glad I am "brave enough" to do it, not tied emotionally here anymore and have some great new friends waiting for us.

I couldn't agree with this more. The only thing we all have in common is that we are awaiting a decision about PR. Apart from that, we all lead different lives surrounded by different circumstances, determined by different financial commitments etc. therefore our ways of dealing with this process will be different from others as will the feelings we have. I too feel ike we're living in limbo. As Rubie and Lins have pointed out, it is the small things like not being able to book a holiday or get that wii for Christmas or just plain not knowing where you'll be or what you're doing in a few months time that's frustrating. For my hubbie and I, we're thinking about having another baby but is this something we act upon now or do we wait until we go to Canada? If we wait it could be years before we have another child. If we don't it could not only delay the process even more but it may mean I may have to stay at home and look after the baby for a while once we get to Canada whilst my husband works full-time and we have no idea how tough it may be to begin with with only one income coming in. It may not be a biggie to some but it can actually get you down and if it is something you worry about, it's real to you, therefore you shouldn't dismiss the way you feel ( I got that from a very good friend of mine on here ;)). We know what you're going through Rubie, hopefully it won't be too long :wub:

Dave+Jules Dec 30th 2010 12:32 am

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 
We had similar feelings, and then we decided to see ourselves as tourists in the UK and every weekend, public holiday etc we visited different local spots or living quite close to London we did the tourist bit there too.:)

Once we were called for Medicals we booked a lastminute.com holiday in a great hotel for peanuts and had a final european holiday before the anticipated successful outcome and approval. :thumbup:

In the old days it took along time to get approval, 3 years in our case:eek: which is why some of us older emigraters have little sympathy for new people who complain about waiting 6-9 months (whatever it is these days).

Good luck and keep your "chin up", it will all come about quicker than you think and it sounds to me as if your preparation have gone well (selling to move into rented accomadation).

MarylandNed Dec 30th 2010 1:20 am

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by MarylandNed (Post 9066707)
You should be worried about this. If you can't even remember why you're making the move to Canada, you should be asking yourself if it's the right thing to do.



Originally Posted by Rubie (Post 9067211)
Don't worry I am. I really am. I have just had the most stressful week and my instincts are telling me at the moment to settle back down as soon as possible and get some stability back into our lives. That said, I know that under different circumstances my outlook is totally different and I am trying to get myself back into that state of mind - this is why I also agree with Howefamily as below in that the frustration of the wait and not knowing does not help under these circumstances which is something experienced by all.

You need to separate your frustration with the wait time from the reasons you wanted to emigrate in the first place. These are totally different things. The reasons for emigrating should be used to keep you positive and get you through the waiting.

That's why I think it would be beneficial for you to remind yourself of the reasons for wanting to emigrate. Make a list of pros and cons and convince yourself one way or the other that this is all worth it. If you decide to continue, get yourself into a positive frame of mind and continue to remind yourself of why you want to move. As I said, this will also help get you through the waiting process.

LadySummer Dec 30th 2010 1:31 am

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 
I totally agree with Rubie, our life is on hold too with regards to everything that has already been said - holidays, purchases, even tickets to Canada again for a break as we will need this money for medicals, landing etc!

What I also know is that as time goes by our children get older and seem less interested in going to Canada. Their life here gets more established and i know it will become harder to take them away from it. Property prices are tumbling again and everything is getting even more expensive, plus the dollar keeps falling - making it near on impossible to become mortgage free in Canada which was our original dream.

Life was crappy when we started this route and despite our goverments best efforts to add to the shittyness of everyones life - things are actually getting better for us. (not good enough to keep us here though) :huh:

All that being said it's still a golden opportunity and one we are commited to 100%. One way or another we'll be there soon, and so will you Rubie!

:thumbsup:

Reidies Dec 30th 2010 2:08 am

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by JasonnJane (Post 9066670)
did you just plug in straight into a travel adaptor with the uk adaptor or did you change the settings etc?

We didn't change any settings but we plug it through a voltage transformer. We use this for the electronics we brought over, but even with this the hairdryer doesn't work.

Kaye5 Dec 30th 2010 3:50 am

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by Rubie (Post 9066202)
I don't think I have explained very well. No, we are not all sat in the arm chair waiting for the postman only moving for food and water ;).

We are living our lives in the respect of everyday things, routines, hobbies etc etc but there are things that are affected by 'the decision' whether you want them to or not. For example, my daughters choice of course next year will be affected by 'the decision'; I cannot book a holiday for next summer because I don't know whether we will be living in this country (this is not a biggie, just another thing). Also other decisions about things like buying furniture, what to do about our knackered car, etc etc are all made more complicated because we are waiting thus the perpetual feeling of being in a state of limbo.

Like I said, probably made worse because we will relocate elsewhere in the UK anyway. Another decision on hold!

I understand entirely what you are saying. We feel the same about things being "on hold". It doesn't make me any less determined to go ahead with our application, but I do recognise your frustrations at not knowing what the future holds and how this affects day-to-day decisions.

We too will relocate within the UK if we get turned down for Canada, and with our house on the market now, what do we do if it sells? Move to our UK choice of location (potentially adding in yet another school change for the kids if we are successful with Canada) or stay close to where we are?

Still, it provides a good excuse for not buying new electronic games consoles for the kids. ;) Whether UK bought ones work in Canada or don't, they think they don't....

MarylandNed Dec 30th 2010 3:53 am

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by Reidies (Post 9067487)
We didn't change any settings but we plug it through a voltage transformer. We use this for the electronics we brought over, but even with this the hairdryer doesn't work.

Hair dryers are a special case because they use a large amount of power. They are so cheap that it's not even worth the hassle of taking a hair dryer - just buy a new one.

fatcat65 Dec 30th 2010 4:01 am

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by zRichi (Post 9066166)
Why won't your Wii games work in Canada? Presumbly you're taking your own wii?
Buying a £1 plug adapted would mean you could use your Wii anywhere:thumbsup:

the leads don't work on their tv's over here, we brought PS2 with us and it doesn't work on their TV's its nothing to do with a plug.

AdrianR Dec 30th 2010 4:35 am

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 
Rubie, I am going to chime in with my two pennorth at this point and say...from my own experience, reading the postings in this forum on a daily basis does little to help...

How?
We are waiting for PR from Mexico City - under Nova Scotia PNP - and when I see that there are many Brits, applying via London, who have the whole process completed within 6 months I get very down. We have been waiting 10 months and still haven't had a meds request. At this rate, I can't see being in NS much before Summer 2011...almost 2 years after applying to NS Immigration.

In the meantime, I do not believe that life has to be on hold. Sure, replacing households goods that are broken/worn-out, deciding whether to change jobs/accept promotion etc, buying new cars all involve critical decisions. But, as others said, there must always be, at the back of your mind, the determination to move eventually and remember how that determination came to be.

Paul_Shepherd Dec 30th 2010 4:59 am

Re: Disillusionment creeping in.
 

Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 9066288)
We sold and bought something else, moving for schooling reasons. We moved as we could not predict the future. PR application was submitted in 2005 and we moved in 2006. In 2007 i got a job offer. At the time PR was taking 3-4 years so could not put life on hold with no guarantee of getting PR.

As stated, we could not predict the future and did not know for certain we would get PR and or WP with LMO.

Totally agree with this...I mean moving a year before your possible immigrating date maybe a little late, but in Tnagram's case an unexpected job offer came up accelerating the process.

When I first applied I had a three year wait in front of me...so I certainly wasnt going to out my life on hold for that long, I wanted to do stuff in the UK to make me certain of my decision to move to Canada when the time came.....3 years is a long time and life in the UK could change in that time for the better - or the worse providing you dont put it all on hold.

So I sold my house, bought a new place in the UK in an area I always wanted to live, got a new job and even started a relationship... my thought was there was no way I was going to throw away three years of my life. It actually turned out to be a very happy period of my life, and I nearly even called the imigration thing off at one point! However in the end I did decide to move - a relationship ended badly, amongst other things, so I thought what the hell am I hanging around here for!

3-4 years is a along time to wait around....for something that may not even happen...live your life! You may decide the UK is where you want to be after all.


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