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Old May 12th 2009, 11:49 pm
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http://www.vancouversun.com/news/2009shootings.html


vancouver looks like some american city with high crime rates

But Vancouver is utopia isn't it ?? Anyway, this caught my eye today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...er/8045229.stm

Note the sentence that states: 'The killing of Giuseppe, who lived in Ardwick with his mother, is the first fatal shooting in Greater Manchester for more than a year.' Look at the shootings in Vancouver during the first 1/3rd of this year !!
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Barrie's not frightening to me but it is scuzzy, a bit of a dump with a markedly redneck population. It's not nice to be in a place where many people have facial tattoos and most are wearing their hats backwards. It's the muscle car and strip club culture of a Wasaga summer but all the year around. I can see people being scared there.
Great, albeit exaggerated, description of Barrie. Two of my long term friends grew up there and they left...one to Dunfermline Scotland via Glasgow and one to Ajax, via Toronto.

Somewhere in the deep recesses of my photo collection I have a photo of me, wearing a baseball cap (Cat Diesel Power), ripped jeans, Kodiaks and a doeskin, coming out of the Anne Street Beer Store, with a case of Canadian and the sun setting off in the distance. Needless to say, I had lost a wager and had to perform this task....drinking the swill was one of the hardest parts of it all.

Bayfield Street, north of the 400 on a summers night is a pretty depressing sight.
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Great, albeit exaggerated, description of Barrie.
I was there on Friday. Costco in Barrie on a weekday is a special place, at once Essex and Hazzard County, so many failed attempts at facial hair, so many stocky dogs on choke chains, so many maps of Newfoundland on trucks and jackets. Barrie is where the poor whites moved when Scarborough went black.
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Barrie is where the poor whites moved when Scarborough went black.
A brilliant description of the place.

Barrie...where the unhypenated can live out their Bob and Doug dreams of utopia.
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Old May 13th 2009, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Do you mean Kingston Road? If so, whatever are you on about, Kingston Road is miles long but none of it's dangerous.
I am aware it is KILOMETERS long, but there are areas that are seady. My brother used to live off of that street and had 2 guys that just shot someone end up at the house next door to him. A friend not living to far close by had a few murders in their apartment building. In general the street is fine, im more so referring to streets near by like Military Trail.
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Again a bizarre choice of location within Toronto. My daughter was a lifeguard at the pool in Regent Park, it wasn't one of the pools at which an escort to the TTC was provided because it's not one in area with a lot of violence.
Perhaps you haven't done to much walking in this neighbourhood yourself if you can see why "Barrie can be a scary place", but Regent Park is for the young and prosperous. Yes they are doing revitalization, yes you can walk through this neighbourhood and be completely fine.

But Yes there are hundreds of drug addicts there all day and night (there lines up in droves by the curch if you want to have a look). Yes there are gangs. Yes there are prostitutes (during daylight hours ive seen). And yes there have been numerous people shot and killed in the area, but doesnt happen daily and looks like it happening less frequently.

Regardless not a 'happy go lucky' neighbourhood.
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But Vancouver is utopia isn't it ?? Anyway, this caught my eye today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...er/8045229.stm

Note the sentence that states: 'The killing of Giuseppe, who lived in Ardwick with his mother, is the first fatal shooting in Greater Manchester for more than a year.' Look at the shootings in Vancouver during the first 1/3rd of this year !!
ahem, the Police in the Uk have shot and killed TWO people this week!
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Originally Posted by ShawnMcCrea
Perhaps you haven't done to much walking in this neighbourhood yourself if you can see why "Barrie can be a scary place", but Regent Park is for the young and prosperous.
I walked, bicycled or took the tram past it daily for ten years or so before the latest construction started. My office and the high school my children attended are in the neighbourhood. I don't say the people are prosperous but it's not rough in the way that I find Barrie to be. You've no need to be in fear because you don't belong around Regents Park. In fact, it's only if you want to visit the women's clinic that you need to be in fear, them religionists are pretty intimidating.

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But Yes there are hundreds of drug addicts there all day and night (there lines up in droves by the curch if you want to have a look).
There's no church in the immediate vicinity. Are you perhaps thinking of the one up at the Four Corners on the one over on, appropriately, Church St.?

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Originally Posted by ShawnMcCrea
In general the street is fine, im more so referring to streets near by like Military Trail.
Miles, or heptathlets if you prefer, off Kingston Road. I'll give you that the rent-geared-to-income buildings at Kingston Road and Lawrence aren't very smart but we're not talking Barrie style strip joints for squaddies, just poverty.
Cliffside Village is one spot I suppose was once rough but I'd say that's gentrified now. There are lots of rough areas in Toronto but you're not picking them, I take it you don't live in the city.
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I walked, bicycled or took the tram past it daily for ten years or so before the latest construction started. My office and the high school my children attended are in the neighbourhood. I don't say the people are prosperous but it's not rough in the way that I find Barrie to be. You've no need to be in fear because you don't belong around Regents Park. In fact, it's only if you want to visit the women's clinic that you need to be in fear, them religionists are pretty intimidating.

Well if you mean in the "we live in a trailer park and have sex with my sister" is really scary to you. Than sure Barrie is quiet dangerous.

There's no church in the immediate vicinity. Are you perhaps thinking of the one up at the Four Corners on the one over on, appropriately, Church St.?
Near The corner of Dundas and Regent St. I think it is there are dozons of people lined up daily?
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Miles, or heptathlets if you prefer, off Kingston Road. I'll give you that the rent-geared-to-income buildings at Kingston Road and Lawrence aren't very smart but we're not talking Barrie style strip joints for squaddies, just poverty.
Cliffside Village is one spot I suppose was once rough but I'd say that's gentrified now. There are lots of rough areas in Toronto but you're not picking them, I take it you don't live in the city.
Vaughan and Oakwood, Malvern Heights, areas of Rexdale. Heck for that Matter I work in West Etobicoke and there have been 4 murders in the last 3 weeks in this district.

I take it you hang out in Barrie a lot huh?
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Near The corner of Dundas and Regent St. I think it is there are dozons of people lined up daily?
There is a church where they feed the homeless a bit west of there, on the corner of Dundas and Parliament, I`d guess their clientelle is not from Regents Park but from the hostels stretching down to Moss Park (a genuinely rough area) or from St. Jamestown. It's all spectacularly scuzzy, I'm often solicited going to or coming from Filmore's, however, poverty filth and drugs are not violence and it's rare to hear of a death from other than poverty and weather.
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Vaughan and Oakwood, Malvern Heights, areas of Rexdale. Heck for that Matter I work in West Etobicoke and there have been 4 murders in the last 3 weeks in this district.

I take it you hang out in Barrie a lot huh?
I've been to Barrie, though more frequently to the apartments of my former sisters-in-law at Markham Road and Lawrence and on Pharmacy. I get the cars serviced at various locations on Kingston Rd (not at Cedarbrae anymore, obviously). I agree that Etobiocoke and the adjoining parts of North York are violent places, just not Regents Park and certainly not Kingston Rd. I still chuckle at having had to go to Rexdale to get my gun licence.
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I've been to Barrie, though more frequently to the apartments of my former sisters-in-law at Markham Road and Lawrence and on Pharmacy. I get the cars serviced at various locations on Kingston Rd (not at Cedarbrae anymore, obviously). I agree that Etobiocoke and the adjoining parts of North York are violent places, just not Regents Park and certainly not Kingston Rd. I still chuckle at having had to go to Rexdale to get my gun licence.
I agree in part that Regent Park is not an extremely bad area. But more so in the past there have been numerous murders around Moss Park, which is more or less a part of that area no? Is it strange getting a gun licence in an area where gun violence is considered a problem.

By the way my i replied to this comment without scrolling up and realizing you addressed the Moss Park area.

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I agree in part that Regent Park is not an extremely bad area. But more so in the past there have been numerous murders around Moss Park, which is more or less a part of that area no? Is it strange getting a gun licence in an area where gun violence is considered a problem.

By the way my i replied to this comment without scrolling up and realizing you addressed the Moss Park area.
My kids' school home ice rink was the one at Moss Park, they'd have games first thing in the morning, as the Salvation Army hostel kicked out - that was a sight to put me off my smoke. It was rough but not scary at first but then the police and residents' association had a campaign to clean up around Dundas and Parliament, I suppose that worked because Moss Park then went dramatically downhill. The Canada Tavern, never an attractive place, became impossible to enter without climbing over bodies. Not the Toronto of the tourist brochures!
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