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Old Feb 27th 2006 | 9:12 am
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Old Feb 27th 2006 | 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by givemeabreak
I have deliberately been contentious to provoke interesting debate which is brilliant sitting here typing a few words in and then almost feeling everyone tapping on their keyboards in anger!!!

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I love being controversial its so much more interesting............."I can hear you all tapping away again!!""
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Old Feb 27th 2006 | 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by givemeabreak
I thank you very much for your comments because without debate we never learn anything and I love being controversial its so much more interesting............."I can hear you all tapping away again!!""

Ah, you dont come here to contribute or to learn then? With your attitude I think you'll fit right in in Canada. May I suggest Iqualuit as a destination of choice.

On second thoughts thats unfair to the good citizens of Iqualuit......

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Old Feb 27th 2006 | 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by givemeabreak

My husband missed the birth of our first child and only saw her when she was 2 months old and was posted in the Falklands when I was pregnant with our son and came back for the birth for one week and then left again till he was 3 months old. We have only lived together for 2 years when he got a posting near to where our family home is. But in these two years he spent night times studying for his degree from home and I worked nights to help pay for it. He is on detachment In Iraq and in the summer Afghanistan but mainly lives 3 hours away from us when in UK manages to get home for most weekends. I work as a legal secretary and our two children are at full time school. I suppose my life experiences have made me very independent and hard nosed. We've had to work for absolutely everything we have including the RAF pension (which is available to anyone who wishes to sign their life and liberty away for 25 years!!). So I really do know what its like to be homesick, wondering what your missing out on back in the UK, getting used to foreign foods, languages, people, knowing that when you walk down the street you won't bump into anyone you know. But these are perfectly acceptable and understandable feelings that everyone will feel at least once.
LOL you will be really funny to watch,
If I'm are reading it right
Married 13 years - hubby rarely home
You're very independent and hard nosed.
Your moving to a new culture and new life where Hubby is going to be home all the time, and he'll be used to getting things done a certain way.



Good luck as many a miltary marriage has had more than it's share of stressors once hubby comes home for good. Every night and everyday is a sharing experience of how to do things.

Think about who decides what happens in your household and why, Hubby or you? After all who is home ALL the time.
 
Old Feb 27th 2006 | 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by givemeabreak
My husband is a Squadron Leader in the RAF and we have put our papers in for skilled work pr visa Feb 05. Obviously not heard anything yet but I have spent hours reading through this forum and to my astonishment am amazed at the lack of preparation done and investigative work done when people apply to live in another Country. My husband has degrees and qualifications up to the ying yang but doesn't expect to walk into a job. I don't expect warm, welcome arms at the school gates either. We have costed exactly how much taxes are, tumble dryers cost, insurance, flights home, houses, cars and children's clothes cost. My husband is experienced in telecoms and would be looking for a job in this area but being the professional he is we are paying for him to take Canadian qualifications that can be recognised and he will volunteer to work free of charge for a Canadian company before he expects a full time job interview. Why do British people think everything should be handed on a plate without hard work and homework being done. It looks to me that people fill in these forms and apply for visas in Countries they know very little about (either politically or geographically) and then wonder whats gone wrong when it all goes belly up. How on earth you can make such a rash decision within the first 6 months as well, oh please. Everywhere is rubbish when its new in the first 12 months and then things start getting easier. Have I read it wrong or do people not ask enough questions first about life changing decisions? Please feel free to correct me or add to the debate....
Over-confidence can be a dangerous thing.
And just to reitterate what others have said.....................all the preparation in the world is not the same as finding out what 'real life' is really like in a country that is unfamiliar to you. For us, the unfamiliarity, is the biggest factor that has affected us, and time, time, time is whats needed to overcome that.
We researched, we visited on a number of occasions, husband came over for interviews and worked very hard to secure a job for us to have on landing. In short we did everything within our abilities and finances to try and prepare us for this huge change in our lives, and fortunately luck has been on our side and all has gone smoothly (touch wood)...................BUT........and its a big but, the way you FEEL, you cannot prepare for. Thats why some people head 'home' after a relatively short period of time. Your personality does come into play a lot, in terms of how you adjust.
 
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I appreciate your need or want to cause controversy, however when time comes that your sitting in Canada feeling very homesick or wanting some advice on your area, members here will probably tell you they thought you knew it all from your immaculate preperation. Its always good to keep potentially resourceful people on your side and promote yourself as someone they will want to help in the future.

Just a tip for the future.
 
Old Feb 27th 2006 | 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by britishvixen21
I appreciate your need or want to cause controversy, however when time comes that your sitting in Canada feeling very homesick or wanting some advice on your area, members here will probably tell you they thought you knew it all from your immaculate preperation. Its always good to keep potentially resourceful people on your side and promote yourself as someone they will want to help in the future.

Just a tip for the future.
With the above in mind remember that your husband is not always going to be the Squadron Leader and in civilian life people will not always defer to you.

In fact they are just as likely to tell you where to get off.

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Old Feb 27th 2006 | 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by givemeabreak
My husband is a Squadron Leader in the RAF and we have put our papers in for skilled work pr visa Feb 05. Obviously not heard anything yet but I have spent hours reading through this forum and to my astonishment am amazed at the lack of preparation done and investigative work done when people apply to live in another Country. My husband has degrees and qualifications up to the ying yang but doesn't expect to walk into a job. I don't expect warm, welcome arms at the school gates either. We have costed exactly how much taxes are, tumble dryers cost, insurance, flights home, houses, cars and children's clothes cost. My husband is experienced in telecoms and would be looking for a job in this area but being the professional he is we are paying for him to take Canadian qualifications that can be recognised and he will volunteer to work free of charge for a Canadian company before he expects a full time job interview. Why do British people think everything should be handed on a plate without hard work and homework being done. It looks to me that people fill in these forms and apply for visas in Countries they know very little about (either politically or geographically) and then wonder whats gone wrong when it all goes belly up. How on earth you can make such a rash decision within the first 6 months as well, oh please. Everywhere is rubbish when its new in the first 12 months and then things start getting easier. Have I read it wrong or do people not ask enough questions first about life changing decisions? Please feel free to correct me or add to the debate....
If you have moved 12 times in 7 years and think that everywhere is rubbish for the first 12 months, you must have had a really miserable time so I would have thought you might have been a little more understanding and a little less self righteous in your post?

Also, if you have truly researched moving to Canada as much as you say you have, surely you should by now realise how complicated and difficult a process it can be and that it is definitely not as black and white as your world seems to be?


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Until you actually get to Canada, meet the people and go through the experiences of integrating yourself into the culture all of your research is just that research and only worth the importance that you give it...

it sounds to me like perhaps in your need to control all aspects of your decision to relocate ... you have forgotten that everyone is entitled to their own desires and reasons to want to move to Canada...and for those who came for a holiday or have never been here and just want to take the chance that Canada is for them...whatever their reasons are no matter how prepared or unprepared I say good on them for having the courage to do so... life is just one big adventure I myself am thankful that there are people out there who can just make the decision to pick up their roots leave family and friends behind and start again in new country and jump with both feet...my husband being one of them...that is what life is all about ...





Originally Posted by givemeabreak
My husband is a Squadron Leader in the RAF and we have put our papers in for skilled work pr visa Feb 05. Obviously not heard anything yet but I have spent hours reading through this forum and to my astonishment am amazed at the lack of preparation done and investigative work done when people apply to live in another Country. My husband has degrees and qualifications up to the ying yang but doesn't expect to walk into a job. I don't expect warm, welcome arms at the school gates either. We have costed exactly how much taxes are, tumble dryers cost, insurance, flights home, houses, cars and children's clothes cost. My husband is experienced in telecoms and would be looking for a job in this area but being the professional he is we are paying for him to take Canadian qualifications that can be recognised and he will volunteer to work free of charge for a Canadian company before he expects a full time job interview. Why do British people think everything should be handed on a plate without hard work and homework being done. It looks to me that people fill in these forms and apply for visas in Countries they know very little about (either politically or geographically) and then wonder whats gone wrong when it all goes belly up. How on earth you can make such a rash decision within the first 6 months as well, oh please. Everywhere is rubbish when its new in the first 12 months and then things start getting easier. Have I read it wrong or do people not ask enough questions first about life changing decisions? Please feel free to correct me or add to the debate....
 
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Wise words, as I have come to expect
but alas one you cannot resist eh?
 
Old Feb 27th 2006 | 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Hangman
With the above in mind remember that your husband is not always going to be the Squadron Leader and in civilian life people will not always defer to you.

In fact they are just as likely to tell you where to get off.

Best regards
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I am a civilian living in a civilian society and civilian neighbourhood with a civilian job and my children go to a civilian school. I think your presumption of military people is antiquated and unrealistic. Military people are working with civilian people and companies all the time (its not all full metal jacket!).
 
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Originally Posted by britishvixen21
I appreciate your need or want to cause controversy, however when time comes that your sitting in Canada feeling very homesick or wanting some advice on your area, members here will probably tell you they thought you knew it all from your immaculate preperation. Its always good to keep potentially resourceful people on your side and promote yourself as someone they will want to help in the future.

Just a tip for the future.

Thanks I'll remember that tip. However, I have found that actually removing oneselfs from a false environment of a computer chat room and physically communicating with people on a "face to face" basis usually has more results. You tend to just get bogged down with self pity when you ex-communicate yourself from public life by staying indoors.
 
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Originally Posted by R2D2
Over-confidence can be a dangerous thing.
And just to reitterate what others have said.....................all the preparation in the world is not the same as finding out what 'real life' is really like in a country that is unfamiliar to you. For us, the unfamiliarity, is the biggest factor that has affected us, and time, time, time is whats needed to overcome that.
We researched, we visited on a number of occasions, husband came over for interviews and worked very hard to secure a job for us to have on landing. In short we did everything within our abilities and finances to try and prepare us for this huge change in our lives, and fortunately luck has been on our side and all has gone smoothly (touch wood)...................BUT........and its a big but, the way you FEEL, you cannot prepare for. Thats why some people head 'home' after a relatively short period of time. Your personality does come into play a lot, in terms of how you adjust.

Asbolutely right. I agree with everything you say. Funnily enough its only the people who go with an unrealistic view of another country that seem to come unstuck. I am reading on this forum loads of comments from people that are coming up with all sorts of excuses why they think Canada was a bad move for them. ie., one guy said because cars were so expensive and he needed it for work his children were out of the school bus area he had to pay $25 for a taxi to take them to school. Bizarre, why didn't the wife get up early take the husband to work and then the kids to school then she wouldn't have got depressed by staying in the house all day without any transport. It's those kind of negative people that just need a kick up the a**e. Afterall most people back here would give their hind teeth to have the opportunity to move to Canada and would give their all.
 
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Originally Posted by Grah
LOL you will be really funny to watch,
If I'm are reading it right
Married 13 years - hubby rarely home
You're very independent and hard nosed.
Your moving to a new culture and new life where Hubby is going to be home all the time, and he'll be used to getting things done a certain way.



Good luck as many a miltary marriage has had more than it's share of stressors once hubby comes home for good. Every night and everyday is a sharing experience of how to do things.

Think about who decides what happens in your household and why, Hubby or you? After all who is home ALL the time.
I fear your view of military people has been somewhat distorted by watching too many Bruce Willis films!!

I should suspect that my husband will continue to work the hours he does in civilian life as the military. Thats start work at 7.30am and finish when the emails have been replied to usually 7.30pm. The RAF are woefully unmanned and overstretched both financially and manning. So I suspect the children and I will be seeing about as much of him as we do now!!!

I agree many a military marriage has gone down the drain and many a civilian marriage too, I think that is irrelevant. All our decision making is a joint effort as we are used to working as a team otherwise we would never have put up with this lifestyle for so long and come out of it wiser and wealthier. I think I have touched a nerve with all the whinging, whining British public who sit in the UK in January, make a decision to emigrate to a Country they know very little about and then when given the opportunity of a lifetime sit on the other side of the world moaning about not having good tv, chocolate, finding it hard to get a job etc., Its only because there is so much employment in this Country that people find it so easy to get a job not because of their skills. I suspect I am right because the ones getting on with their lives and making a go of it haven't got the time for a forum their too busy enjoying themselves.
 


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