Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
Feb 22nd 2013 | 3:48 am
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
So, to clarify, are trade certificates (NVQs etc) and english GCSEs not accepted for these purposes?
I also had an email from my prospective employer tonight advising me to consider booking an english language test now if I want to apply for permanent residency as quickly as possible as there is a 3 month backlog for the tests
Is this normal for someone on a TWP to have to undertake such a test as part of the PR process? Again, are trade certificates (NVQs) and/or english qualifications such as GCSEs not accepted for this process?
Thanks in advance
I also had an email from my prospective employer tonight advising me to consider booking an english language test now if I want to apply for permanent residency as quickly as possible as there is a 3 month backlog for the tests
Is this normal for someone on a TWP to have to undertake such a test as part of the PR process? Again, are trade certificates (NVQs) and/or english qualifications such as GCSEs not accepted for this process?
Thanks in advance
My husband took the IETLS before we left England as we thought he needed it for PR.
We have since applied for PR via AINP (Alberta Immigration Nomination Stream) and under the Employer Stream where his employer can vouch for his English so he didn't need to take the test. Which way are you intending to take to get to PR?
Feb 22nd 2013 | 5:21 am
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
So, to clarify, are trade certificates (NVQs etc) and english GCSEs not accepted for these purposes?
I also had an email from my prospective employer tonight advising me to consider booking an english language test now if I want to apply for permanent residency as quickly as possible as there is a 3 month backlog for the tests
Is this normal for someone on a TWP to have to undertake such a test as part of the PR process? Again, are trade certificates (NVQs) and/or english qualifications such as GCSEs not accepted for this process?
Thanks in advance
I also had an email from my prospective employer tonight advising me to consider booking an english language test now if I want to apply for permanent residency as quickly as possible as there is a 3 month backlog for the tests
Is this normal for someone on a TWP to have to undertake such a test as part of the PR process? Again, are trade certificates (NVQs) and/or english qualifications such as GCSEs not accepted for this process?
Thanks in advance
Not necessarily - no requirement for English testing for spousal sponsorship for instance. Not all visa routes require it.
Feb 22nd 2013 | 10:14 am
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
Hi
My husband took the IETLS before we left England as we thought he needed it for PR.
We have since applied for PR via AINP (Alberta Immigration Nomination Stream) and under the Employer Stream where his employer can vouch for his English so he didn't need to take the test. Which way are you intending to take to get to PR?
My husband took the IETLS before we left England as we thought he needed it for PR.
We have since applied for PR via AINP (Alberta Immigration Nomination Stream) and under the Employer Stream where his employer can vouch for his English so he didn't need to take the test. Which way are you intending to take to get to PR?
I initially plan to go to Canada with a TWP, but hope to convert this to PR asap
As I plan to go to Alberta I had looked at AINP as I think this would be my best (quickest) bet - so are all employers eligible for the "stream"?
Feb 22nd 2013 | 10:31 am
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
Ok, Ive had a look on the CIC and found this:
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It suggests that "semi skilled" workers need to sit an english test as part of the application process but I assume that "skilled" do not (it doesnt say):
Effective July 1, 2012, most Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) applicants to semi- or low-skilled professions will need language testing. This test will show whether your language proficiency meets a minimum standard in each of these four categories: listening, speaking, reading and writing.
This does not apply if you are a temporary foreign worker in a NOC C & D occupation, and who:
entered Canada on or before July 1, 2012, and
has been nominated in a PNP employer-driven stream by July 1, 2013.
Clicky
It suggests that "semi skilled" workers need to sit an english test as part of the application process but I assume that "skilled" do not (it doesnt say):
Effective July 1, 2012, most Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) applicants to semi- or low-skilled professions will need language testing. This test will show whether your language proficiency meets a minimum standard in each of these four categories: listening, speaking, reading and writing.
This does not apply if you are a temporary foreign worker in a NOC C & D occupation, and who:
entered Canada on or before July 1, 2012, and
has been nominated in a PNP employer-driven stream by July 1, 2013.
Feb 25th 2013 | 3:40 am
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
i have an issue..if i remember rightly my degree stuff and qualifications were never returned to me when i got my PR..what about a written acknowledgment for the university to say i have a degree?
Feb 25th 2013 | 2:36 pm
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
Further to my original message, is anyone aware exactly what they mean by
a) for the language evidence that one course does not count - would proof i passed maths, science etc at the same school count?
b) says photocopies of school records for myself or dependent children are missing or illegible - I completed section G. I showed the names of both my children and the school of one who is 5 and the dates applicable. My other child i showed the name info and age but he is only 2 so i left off the school as it is not applicable. Should i have left the second (non school age child) off the application and/or provided any other info as well?
a) for the language evidence that one course does not count - would proof i passed maths, science etc at the same school count?
b) says photocopies of school records for myself or dependent children are missing or illegible - I completed section G. I showed the names of both my children and the school of one who is 5 and the dates applicable. My other child i showed the name info and age but he is only 2 so i left off the school as it is not applicable. Should i have left the second (non school age child) off the application and/or provided any other info as well?
Feb 25th 2013 | 4:46 pm
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
What, they require a language test for citizenship as well now?! That seems unreasonable, since surely if you've been able to live and work in Canada for 3 years the language thing is pretty irrelevant? For example you may be able to speak and understand english, but not read/write well, which is enough for some types of work. What about landed immigrants from the 60s/70s who have PR but not citizenship but don't have all the english skills? Wow...
Feb 25th 2013 | 5:54 pm
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
Surely if you're eligible to apply for citizenship and the kid's only 2, he's a citizen already?
Feb 25th 2013 | 10:56 pm
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Feb 25th 2013 | 11:38 pm
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Feb 26th 2013 | 5:47 am
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
I have just received my citizenship application back saying it is incomplete.
1) says that Language evidence is not acceptable. I supplied my high school (Certificate Of Secondary Education) where it clearly states i passed English.
Anyone have a clue why would they reject this? The only thing i can see is that it says a single course does not count - do they want to see other courses i passed as well maybe??
2) says photocopies of school records for myself or dependent children are missing or illegible.
I completed section G. I showed the names of both my children and the school of one and the dates applicable. My other child i showed the name info and age but he is only 2 so i left off the school as it is not applicable.
Should i have left the second (non school age child) off the application and/or provided any other info as well?
Any help or advice would be great?
Many thanks
1) says that Language evidence is not acceptable. I supplied my high school (Certificate Of Secondary Education) where it clearly states i passed English.
Anyone have a clue why would they reject this? The only thing i can see is that it says a single course does not count - do they want to see other courses i passed as well maybe??
2) says photocopies of school records for myself or dependent children are missing or illegible.
I completed section G. I showed the names of both my children and the school of one and the dates applicable. My other child i showed the name info and age but he is only 2 so i left off the school as it is not applicable.
Should i have left the second (non school age child) off the application and/or provided any other info as well?
Any help or advice would be great?
Many thanks
I have just put all my docs together and off to get some lovely pics of me and the boy done. I included all my edumication docs that I have done much of in the English. :@) noted that I did pass English & English Lit so if my calculations are correct that is erm 1+1=2 yup two English things I done.
Lets see what happens next, off to polish my hair now for pics.
Feb 26th 2013 | 11:52 am
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
Both my kids are born in Canada! my wife is Canadian too!! Ive also been in Canada since 2004 as a PR since early 2006!! I am still not totally sure but will attached other school certs from other classes and pass docs from college in England (they will probably return then because too much proof!!!) I think the main issue then is about the children and why they rejected that section.
Does anyone know what should be on the section about children and what should be shown for non-school age children? Also should i show any registration for the older child at school?
Wonder when the language issue came in to effect as i sent the application in December and it was received in Dec as i had proof it was with them as was a courier postage used???
Does anyone know what should be on the section about children and what should be shown for non-school age children? Also should i show any registration for the older child at school?
Wonder when the language issue came in to effect as i sent the application in December and it was received in Dec as i had proof it was with them as was a courier postage used???
Feb 26th 2013 | 12:13 pm
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
The point NOvo was trying to make is that your children ARE AlREADY citizens if they were born in Canada
You don't need to apply for citizenship for them
Surely they have a Canadian birth certificate !
You don't need to apply for citizenship for them
Surely they have a Canadian birth certificate !
Feb 26th 2013 | 1:09 pm
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Re: Citizenship Application - incomplete!!
I think you may need to re apply, just for yourself as your kids are Canadian by birth, and maybe you have confused the CIC into thinking you have some other kids who are not Canadian. Just a possibility ehh!
And maybe send anything that shows you passed English or took an exam in anything English related. Engineering degree or electrical red seal ect.
And maybe send anything that shows you passed English or took an exam in anything English related. Engineering degree or electrical red seal ect.
Feb 26th 2013 | 7:38 pm
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