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Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by HGerchikov
(Post 13073578)
Condo buildings have rules about number of pets and the size of them. They are generally not flexible about this rule being broken, wherever you are from. The limit is based on the weight of the dog so, if you have a dog close to the weight limit then you need to keep that pooch on a strict diet. In this case it doesn't sound like they were hounded out because of their race but because of their hound.
As also noted above, the alleged racism kicked in after the initial dispute. In the ears of the people leaving it's not acceptable to use race as a term of abuse regardless of what argument it is incidental to. |
Re: Canada is a scam
so long as you have a francophone and someone of undecided sexuality that's enough. http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/publi...rimereport.pdf |
Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by Mordko
(Post 13073588)
Given that LBTQ is among the most victimized minority groups in Canada, I’d say they qualify for contributing to “diversityâ€
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Re: Canada is a scam
As also noted above, the alleged racism kicked in after the initial dispute. In the ears of the people leaving it's not acceptable to use race as a term of abuse regardless of what argument it is incidental to. Like this. https://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/...cial-slur.html |
Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 13073597)
Yes. Point deliberately missed, I note.
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Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by Mordko
(Post 13073602)
Your point that only certain minorities count stems from ignorance.
I’ve read quite a bit this year around these subjects. I’ve always found it very interesting. Caste by Isabel Wilkerson is a great book, and her previous book The Warmth of Other Suns was also good. Jews Don’t Count by David Baddiel was also very good, and talks about the hierarchy of discrimination and racism. I won’t speak for Dbd, but the conversation was around discrimination based on race, and you’re attempting to make it about something else. I would never disagree that being any minority group has life made so much harder for them. But I guess the point would be that a white gay couple would still have life easier than a black gay couple. It seems ridiculous that we should even still be having these conversations, but Caste really talks about how the US is systemically racist at it’s core. Comparables with the US are easy to find within Canada and the UK. |
Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by Tirytory
(Post 13073388)
Irony?
I always try to teach my kids to avoid words like that if they don’t like something. Just because you don’t like something it doesn’t make it horrid or obnoxious. |
Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by orly
(Post 13073419)
Luckily any true Brit enjoys the smell of curry.
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Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by Rete
(Post 13073611)
They are legitimate descriptive words and they fit the sentence from mine, my family's and the other tenants POV. The smells were horrible and to this day I cannot stomach the smell of curry or hot grease. If you wish to teach your child not to use certain descriptive words that is, of course, your choice.
You also seemed to have missed the irony of your question and then your answer, almost like you were hoping that Dbd’s answer would fit with your own thinking and experience of why they should leave. It’s actually a great example of the whole discussion. |
Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by Rete
(Post 13073371)
Are you free to speak of how and why they were hounded out?
I recall from my teenage years that our apartment building was accepting tenants who the local hospital who were here as interns from India and nurses from the Philipphines with work visas. They were not well liked at all and one of the main reasons was the horrid cooking odors that came from there apartments. Americans back then in the 60's, and probably still today, do not care for curry and cooking with very hot oil. The smells were obnoxious and there were many complaints until the management stopped renting to the hospital's immigrant personnel.
Originally Posted by Rete
(Post 13073611)
They are legitimate descriptive words and they fit the sentence from mine, my family's and the other tenants POV. The smells were horrible and to this day I cannot stomach the smell of curry or hot grease. If you wish to teach your child not to use certain descriptive words that is, of course, your choice.
"They were not well liked" because of "horrid" and "obnoxious" cooking odours. To the extent that immigrants were hounded out of the apartment building. And you think those are "legitimate descriptive words." I'm pretty disgusted, actually. |
Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by Mordko
(Post 13073602)
Your point that only certain minorities count stems from ignorance.
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Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 13073582)
As noted above, I'm not going to go far into such an irrationally emotive subject as pets. Arguably this is not the largest dog in the building but I haven't measured them. Why anyone would keep a dog in a condo is as much a mystery to me as why anyone would willingly move to North York.
As also noted above, the alleged racism kicked in after the initial dispute. In the ears of the people leaving it's not acceptable to use race as a term of abuse regardless of what argument it is incidental to. Regardless.. perhaps you could inform them that being called racist names goes against the Human Rights code... Racial harassment: know your rights (brochure) | Ontario Human Rights Commission / Policy and guidelines on racism and racial discrimination | Ontario Human Rights Commission :) |
Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by Tirytory
(Post 13073609)
I’ve read quite a bit this year around these subjects. I’ve always found it very interesting. Caste by Isabel Wilkerson is a great book, and her previous book The Warmth of Other Suns was also good. Jews Don’t Count by David Baddiel was also very good, and talks about the hierarchy of discrimination and racism.
I won’t speak for Dbd, but the conversation was around discrimination based on race, and you’re attempting to make it about something else. I would never disagree that being any minority group has life made so much harder for them. But I guess the point would be that a white gay couple would still have life easier than a black gay couple. It seems ridiculous that we should even still be having these conversations, but Caste really talks about how the US is systemically racist at it’s core. Comparables with the US are easy to find within Canada and the UK. 2. Very much appreciate that you read up all about racism and shared your knowledge with the uninitiated. Very kind of you. Some WASPs excel at it. |
Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by Mordko
(Post 13073648)
1. Conversation was about diversity. That’s why the term used was... “diversityâ€. You just chose to interpret it in a very particular way. I was responding to a specific comment saying that certain minorities don’t really count towards diversity: “so long as you have a francophone and someone of undecided sexuality that's enough.â€
2. Very much appreciate that you read up all about racism and shared your knowledge with the uninitiated. Very kind of you. Some WASPs excel at it. What a waste of your time writing that, and mine reading and responding to it. |
Re: Canada is a scam
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 13073445)
I live there too, well Peterborough County but I know it well. It is racist, maybe not by Canadian standards but certainly in comparison to the UK. They did try and burn the mosque down there and only 15 or so years ago Campbellford Legion Halloween Fancy dress party made the news for a KKK man and his blackface captive in a noose.
I'm sure we've had similar incidents in the GTA. Does this mean Toronto is "racist"? Maybe it's the company I keep, but I have experienced next to nothing in the way of racist or bigoted comments in the 9 years or so that I've lived in the area. And I've played sports with quite a diverse range of people from all 4 corners of the globe. And I've even eaten at "ethnic" restaurants that were not the obligatory "Chinese-Canadian". But, like I say, those are my own experiences. Others may differ. |
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