Canada is a scam
 

I am very sorry to say that , and I know I'm just becoming a website pariah but in my opinion Canada is a big SCAM.
Starting with racism, so deeply imbedded in Canada's culture it's unbelievable. Mostly against indigenous people but here in northern Ontario in general. SHAME on you Canada.
Then healthcare- maybe free but getting a family doctor, getting specialist appointment is impossible. To wait over a year for a specialist?!?! I know it's free but so is in the UK.
Prices: everything here is so so expensive . Food, mobile phone plans, clothing, furniture - everything. Apart from gas but that is also climbing.
Jobs - low level jobs yes sure but slightly above that? It's all about who you know, connections not skills, not experience, not professionalism.
Canadians are very insecure , threatened by skilled educated foreigners. They are rude and obnoxious.
Theie attitude sucks , they think they know everything better, they think they are so so superior when in reality they are backward! At least 10 years behind the UK. Medical protocols, veterinary protocols and their customer care- that is almost non existent.
Canadians are dishonest, unprofessional, they are LAZY.
​LAZY LAZY
I am bitterly disappointed and after few months of being here and working in well paid job we are going back to the UK.
Canada is beautiful but that is about it. Could come for holidays but that's all.
And one more thing: Canadians always show strong resentment to comparison with the US. They think they are better than Americans. But the truth is they are a knock of copy of them. At least weith Americans is what you see it's what you get. Canadians are fake, two faced , passive aggressive and have no balls to be honest with each other.
Sorry Canada but that is my honest opinion .

And now all of you feel free to jump me. I'm ready for it 👍

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So you went with the Sudbury job in the end then? You can't say you weren't warned……..!

Please be mindful of insulting an entire county with your views, particularly when you've said one of the things you don't like about Canada is racism. The country hasn't worked out for you, but there's no need to insult all Canadians, you can't possibly have met every single one of them.

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I Don't get your point. So those redneck french speaking rasists here are not Canadians? Country suddenly doesn't take responsibility for their actions? So where this silent approval is coming from? How many times have you heard something along the lines" yes you are right but you know they are French so that's the way they are" ? Because I hear it all the time.
And I did not say " every Canadian" I said Canadians. And clearly stated it's my personal opinion.
And you felt insulted by that one sentence? Any comments on other issues? Typical passive aggressive attitude. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

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Why on earth did you go to northern Ontario? Of course it's going to be redneck there, you'd find the same in bleak, sparsely populated, corners of the UK. If you want acceptance of diversity you should go where there's a diverse population, such as inside the M25 or the GTA.

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[QUOTE=ArekDeBoss;13072673]after few months of being here and working in well paid job we are going back to the UK./QUOTE]

You just gave Canada a 'few months' and everything was negative and awful so you're heading back to the UK. I don't think Canada will miss you. How much research did you do ahead of time. I think that many of your rants etc about life in Canada could be replicated by native Canadians moving to the UK complaining about life in parts of the UK. Housing prices in the UK are crazy and there are many people there on a never ending treadmill of get up/commute for a long way/work at a job you don't like/commute back home and then rinse/repeat as you accumulate debt.

Hope you find happiness back in the UK but based on your post I get the sense you are always whinging so not sure if there is paradise for you.

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My point is that you're doing exactly what you've accused Canadians of.

I'm British, I'm not remotely insulted by your comments about Canadians. But you might want to wind your neck in and tone down the personal insults. Or you don't be on the forum for much longer to make your point anyway.

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He posted originally asking about Sudbury or Peterborough for job locations. The comments about Sudbury weren't exactly positive. :lol:

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Maybe time for a little self reflection there?

Please, don't slam the door on your way out. You'll wake us up!

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Next, investigating the commonality of non-binary pronouns in the mining towns of the Australian outback.

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Now be nice, you're in Canada now. It isn't for everybody, but not knowing about racism definitely shows he should have spent more time reading on this forum or at least read the news before considering moving. What we really need are people who not only recognize the problems but want to become part of the solution. Like I said, it isn't for everybody and this won't be the first or last time someone has become disillusioned and bailed.

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It is possible to decide a place isn’t for you without dismissing the whole country and all it’s people.

I feel the superficiality of friendships here in a way I never did before but I think that’s mostly due to the small town we came to, and the fact that most of my friends came back to their home town so have all these shared histories that I can never access. Yes, I think there is racism here, but of course that applies everywhere. Systemic racism infiltrates every society. Re healthcare; our GP friend in the UK was telling us that routine orthopaedic operations are now roughly a three year wait.

Maybe you’re just angry that despite the warnings, you chose the wrong place? Maybe you can just move on safe in the knowledge that you stepped outside your comfort zone, experienced it and it wasn’t for you. Good to find that out now before you become too invested in your life.

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I wonder what went wrong? My impression is most people here seem to quite like it. I like it very much. Have the Canadians been beastly to you?

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Guarantee if nothing else, you have just passed the 'honeymoon' phase that all emigrants go through. A few months is simply not enough time to make any kind of sober judgement.

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[QUOTE=Partially discharged;13072712]Oh thank you for such an eloquent and in depth analysis of my character. You made my day 👍

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[QUOTE=ArekDeBoss;13072822]You did rather invite it, don't you think?

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[QUOTE=Farmer on a bike;13072833]Waiting for more

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Oh dear. Blanket generalisations that don't apply to the majority of Canadians.

Most are not lazy, ignorant, racist, dishonest nor unprofessional! Yes, there are some that are - just as there are Brits that are lazy, ignorant, dishonest and unprofessional :D

It would seem that you picked the wrong area to move to (redneck country) ... this is where due diligence comes in to play, unfortunately. Peterborough may have been a better fit for you (could you get a transfer?). A read of any of the numerous threads on cost of living on BE would have told you about the expenses here.. and the situation where many immigrants have to take jobs that are a lower level than may have been held before - sideways /drop downs in careers are common. Again, this has been related in the Wiki and in threads on the forum. Did you read anything in the wiki about the 'Canada Challenges" before deciding to make the move - especially this part https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Consi...ving_to_Canada ? Had you done a recce, been to Canada before? What was the motive to move here.. perhaps remember those reasons :)

You've only been here since the end of June - so are probably suffering from culture shock.. https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Culture_Shock-Canada



I'm sorry to hear that you are so unhappy... perhaps take a step back, have a rethink and see if it's possible to move, before taking drastic action and leaving.....
:)

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I appreciate your comment
Probably the first without going straight for my throat.haha
yes we did research, but we did not expect severity of racism and general attitude we faced here. And I get it's only the part of the country. But nobody talks about situation here. At least UK does not pretent to be tolerant and open minded as Canada does.
My wife has never been told in the UK to go back to the reservation.
In regards to the jobs situation. It's not about taking jobs below your qualifications and quite frankly why should we as professionals agree to that? Canada wants to be seen as this open country, open to foreigners but in reality only to give them jobs way beyond what they are worth at the same time insisting on Canadian superiority.
And with all respect I don't think the location will make any difference in health care accessibility, protocols etc
And I can't believe some of the comments here : oh north Ontario , what did you expect etc. At the end of the day it's still Ontario, Canada. Why don't you just say : we are tolerant, we are nice , we are respectful but only in the GTA area where majority of the polulation is foreign. That would be more true representation of Canada don't you think?

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It's not just the area; there's endemic racism in every part of the country with some differences in how it presents itself.

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1. It's not "we". The discussion is among immigrants about Canada. We don't belong here and aren't responsible for what the locals do.
2. This is a fun thread for the idea that Peterborough is a tolerant kind of place. I imagine multiculturalism in Peterborough is a Canadian-Chinese restaurant.
3. I did say that diversity is more accepted in places with diverse populations though this should be obvious.
4. If either or both of you looks like a native Canadian be glad you went to northern Ontario and not Saskatchewan.

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You sound almost like a Victorian man visiting the colonies from Somerset Maugham‘s books but not as sophisticated.

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So that’s about 400 million people you’ve passed a judgement on. Wonder how many of them you actually met and got to know. One millionth, perhaps? Nah; not that many. You certainly use the same kind of logic a racist would. Which is apparently fine as long as you are open about it. Cool.

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A fair review that is expressed by many immigrants.

Count yourself fortunate that you can afford to leave- most immigrants are stuck due to financial reasons. Some stay in the hope their children get a fairer go.

I'm sure the next place will be a better experience for you.

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Dunno, haven't really seen or experienced that in the decade or so I've spent here. You'll get racism in every country but I'd say Canada is far towards the bottom of the list of racist places.
True enough but I've heard similar stories from the UK too. I do think on balance the UK is slightly better when it comes to healthcare.
Yea stuff is more expensive here but I think, on average, people tend to earn more here too.
Lived in the US briefly. I'd say Canadians have much to be pleased about when comparing themselves to the clownshow south of the border :rofl:

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You should have moved to the west coast, we are super chill here but you have to put up with extreme weather.

I read that people are leaving Ontario in droves, wonder why?

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/record-br...ince-1.5665171

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I'd say from the final sentence in your original post in this thread when you said 'And now all of you feel free to jump me. I'm ready for it 👍' you kind of set yourself up for it/were expecting it. You gave it a few months, you hate it, move on/leave and enjoy life back in the UK.

I think that the general response has been fairly similar to your rather bold post where you basically crapped on everything about Canada vs the UK to a forum primarily populated by ex-UK residents now living in Canada or people in the UK wanting to live in Canada. Not many posters are ex-residents of Canada now living back in their original country, the UK. I hope you find happiness wherever you end up, and I gather it won't be small town Canada.

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Then you would be mistaken.

https://welcomepeterborough.ca/why-p...-peterborough/

Peterborough - and it's proximity to Toronto, is most likely more tolerant and diverse than where the OP currently resides!

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I think he's right about the Chinese restaurant though :lol:

Peterborough's population is approximately 87.9% white, 6.1% visible minorities and 6% Indigenous as of 2016. Of the visible minorities only three groups represent more than 1% of the population: 1.7% South Asian, 1.0% Chinese, and 1.0% Black.

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I've been to Peterborough. I've seen the restaurant. I concede that the town might seem to have a diverse population and to offer fine dining if you'd just arrived from Sudbury.

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Other than that though, it's all good I take it?

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I know you like to pass the time by yanking a few chains on these boards, but this comment just smacks of pure ignorance.

But what do I know? I only live there.

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https://townfolio.co/on/peterborough/demographics

Stats Canada: https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-r...B1=All&TABID=1

Shows people from different countries from all over the world... a diverse melting pot! There are Indian restaurants, Thai.. oh and 15 Chinese restaurants.... :p

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The numbers are posted above. 6.1% visible minorities. It's hardly Brampton.

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I can't help thinking of the bloke in the pub who approaches a woman and when she knocks him back he rejoins his mates telling them she's a lesbian. :lol:

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Of course the numbers are never going to be as diverse as Brampton or anywhere in the GTA, but I was referring specifically to your comment: "This is a fun thread for the idea that Peterborough is a tolerant kind of place. I imagine multiculturalism in Peterborough is a Canadian-Chinese restaurant"

... which is clearly riddled with ignorance.

I don't know where you live, but I probably wouldn't make such sweeping statements about any place where I'd hardly spent any time.

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I have a very fragile ego. No need to shame me in a public forum.

It's odd that every girl in Hooters is a lesbian. I'm writing to head office about the bias and discrimination in their recruitment procedures. It is 2021 after all!

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If you think that's odd, wait til someone suggests a 3-some. Guys almost always expect it's them and two ladies, and ladies usually think of them and two guys, at least that's what I've read elsewhere :p

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Why concentrate on visible minorities? Why not look at the statistics for ethnic origins - which give a more balanced view on the diversity. Diverse doesn't only mean 'visible minority' - or are you just trying to wind people up as usual?

Diversity means having a range of people with various racial, ethnic, socioeconomic, and cultural backgrounds and various lifestyles, experience, and interests.. which covers people from different areas of Europe, Asia, Africa or anywhere else on earth!

https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-r...TABID=1&type=0

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Canada didn't work out for you, it happens and now that you've made the decision to move back to the UK you can concentrate on the next chapter of your life.

Now that you've expressed your feelings about Canada, and I know that having a bit of a rant can make us feel better in the short-term, it's time to look ahead with optimism. Holding onto bitterness and anger will only impede your ability to have a good life going forward. Canada in its entirety, and Canadians in their entirety, are not horrible. It's just that you, and the Canada and Canadians you interacted with, were not a good fit for each other. Best of luck with your return to the UK.

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That doesn't make it a racist place though.