Originally Posted by Mordko (Post 13074609)

Sorry for not being clear. What I am actually suggesting is that you don’t know the meaning of fairly basic terms like “explicit”, Apartheid” and “refugee”. .

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13074552)

I didn't know about it, just as I didn't know French was not in common use across the country. Note that, in the past timeframes were compressed; we first considered emigrating at the beginning of March and were in Canada in the middle of April having considered jobs on offer in the US, Australia, various other countries. Even if one were interested, that leaves little time for studying the nuances of fiscal and population policies under the various administrations. Anyway, if one cared, one would have trouble choosing the least bad regime for treatment of the native populations by colonial administrations. Yikes, they're all terrible!

Aboriginal Canadians are held in their reservations by a range of coercive policies. Some do leave. One can, for example, see numbers of them sleeping rough in Toronto parks. I personally have little difficulty in seeing why people do not choose to give up their tax exempt status to move from a tar paper shack on a reservation to a shared park bench. The one offers poisoned water, the other no water at all. Offered no future, one may as well take the money, and the drugs, and stay put, there's no need for legislation requiring that, only if that policy goal were not currently being achieved would there be a need for further legislation.

It's popularly called the "Injun Card" I expect google can convert that to the official name and image.

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 13074786)

Have you been around Caledonia, 6 Nations of the Grand River and Ohswekan areas lately? Far from tar paper shacks, some are quite palatial, in this case Chief Hill's place, sadly he recently died
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...fa6b1c2bc0.jpg

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13074929)

Not much to add. Enjoyed the OP's original rant. I wonder if by "Canadians" he meant so-called "Cradles"? In any case, empirically false on the racism (nationally) given the high level of immigration and cohesion.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13074939)

Canadian racism doesn't primarily involve immigrants. Immigrants have their own racisms from their home countries and act, or don't act, on those as if they were at home.

The racism is between the cradles and the natives and it's getting worse. You know how, if you work at a place and the boss is a christian, every meeting starts with a little prayer? Well they've started doing that here but with the twist that it's a little gloat over taking the land where the speaker is sitting from the tribe it once belonged to. This is the only corporate engagement with the native population, no one is going to go out and actually hire a native, so it seems amazingly crass to me. Imagine if people had to do that in England? "We took your potatoes, nyah, nyah, nyah. We partitioned your country, aren't we clever. We introduced famine" etc. etc, you'd never get to reviewing the quarterly something-or-other report.

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13074951)

Is that not just some pushback on the "land recognition statement" (or whatever it's called, just heard the term recently) that has now become politically correct ?

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 13074786)

Have you been around Caledonia, 6 Nations of the Grand River and Ohswekan areas lately? Far from tar paper shacks, some are quite palatial, in this case Chief Hill's place, sadly he recently died
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...fa6b1c2bc0.jpg

Originally Posted by Rete (Post 13075020)

Kanawake, Quebec, where my in-laws live is much the same. Yes there are smaller and older homes but the reservation is growing and the growth is towards high end homes. All his Native nieces and nephews hold gainful employment both in and out of the reservation. His nephew teaches school just outside of Ottawa. His other nephew works IT in Toronto. His niece works for the Indian Council and his other niece is in IT in Montreal.

Originally Posted by Photoplex (Post 13075063)

From everything in this thread, Ontario sounds awful. And people (well, Easterners mostly) love to point fingers at Alberta.

Originally Posted by Photoplex (Post 13075063)

From everything in this thread, Ontario sounds awful. And people (well, Easterners mostly) love to point fingers at Alberta.

Originally Posted by Photoplex (Post 13075063)

From everything in this thread, Ontario sounds awful. And people (well, Easterners mostly) love to point fingers at Alberta.