paulry

I despair when I think about the path that our country was led along and the results that it now seems to be stuck with.

slapphead_otool

+1

And the worst of it is that as it occurred gradually many people in the UK don't even realise the extent of the problem.

chris955

By 'our country' are you referring to Australia or England ? I honestly see no difference, I have both eyes wide open and I see minority groups seemingly dictating to the majority. I'm sorry if you feel it is different here you need to look around.

chris955

I actually do agree to a point, exactly as we are seeing here as well which is equally worrying.

slapphead_otool

Except Australia has gone the other way. Twenty five years ago Liberals and Labor would not be trying to outdo themselves in ways to dump boat people overseas. I doubt that would ever happen in the UK?

Australia has hardened up considerably in the 25 years that I have lived there. Sydney has Asian Crime and Middle Eastern Crime police teams. I seriously doubt the Met has things like that. Maybe i am wrong?

chris955

I guess we all see what makes us feel better.

chris955

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3808165.stm

slapphead_otool

A quick google shows a lot of talk about it being planned in 2004. No mention of it actually being formed, and no record of it in the directorate.

Did it actually get formed, or was it too politically sensitive (as alluded to in the BBC report)?

slapphead_otool

Human nature.

chris955

I agree, someone living in Australia and calling Australia home will often naturally
want to dismiss anything in their old 'home' and celebrate the exact same thing here. It is odd but as you say human nature.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Operation Trident is sort of in the area.

chris955

This idea that they can't or wont set up squads targeting certain nationalities in the UK is bizarre to say the least.

sonlymewalter

often in the UK they *do* the right thing they just don't gob off about it so we'd never really know

paulry

Yes and the politicians lied and cheated to carry out their dastardly deeds.

I mean Britain but yes I agree with you that the same path seems to have been chosen here where it's just not yet at the "advanced" stages.

slapphead_otool

I dont really call anywhere home. I have lived on and off in Australia for 25 years, but it certainly isn't my home. I guess I am nomadic. My home is where the work is.

My wife is Japanese, I lived in the UK, France and the Middle East before arriving here, and since then i have worked all over Asia and now I am working across the Pacific.

I think this "homelessness" and experience of living elsewhere allows me to look at things objectively. Or maybe not.