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Old Sep 30th 2016 | 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Beoz
Well look at that. When Libs are in power unemployment goes down. When Labor is in it unemployment goes up.

You probably want to just roll over and move back to Automation ..... the graphs paint and ugly picture for your beloved Labor party and unemployment. They certainly don't help your lies about jobs.
I think we've been over this before, since the graph actually shows the impact of the GFC, as you well know.

PS remember, you are the party man. Personally I think they are all corrupt cretins.

But yes, this thread should be on automation, so in that vein, here's a study that points to IT employment suffering as outsourcing combines with automation to 'reduce headcount'.

Why automation doubles IT outsourcing cost savings | CIO

Thus far I'm not really seeing any of the 'new jobs' of which you speak - but plenty of job losses on the near horizon...
 
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Originally Posted by GarryP
Strangely, looking at the real rate, over a longer period, shows a different picture ...

http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/fil...28-monthly.jpg
One thing I've learn from my recent studies - there's a graph for every occasion

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Old Sep 30th 2016 | 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
That new FPV plane from Parrot looks awesome

Building drones is great fun too

The FAA in the US has gone completely overboard on recreational drones whereas CASA has taken a more open approach - probably in the knowledge that something tht you can buy at BigW and JB HiFi is going to almost impossible to regulate
Fixed wing is a strange direction to go in. They can't compete with DJI for quadcopters but this does faster and longer flight time for similar money. I'd definitely crash it though and you'd really need a lot of open space to use it to its fullest. And the wind might be a massive spoil sport.
 
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Originally Posted by GarryP
I think we've been over this before, since the graph actually shows the impact of the GFC, as you well know.

PS remember, you are the party man. Personally I think they are all corrupt cretins.

But yes, this thread should be on automation, so in that vein, here's a study that points to IT employment suffering as outsourcing combines with automation to 'reduce headcount'.

Why automation doubles IT outsourcing cost savings | CIO

Thus far I'm not really seeing any of the 'new jobs' of which you speak - but plenty of job losses on the near horizon...
Yes we have been over this before, and even outside the GFC, Labor have always been an employment failure. See your graph.

Anyhow, your interesting article talks about physical network engineers and support desk personal taking a hit.

Hasn't this already happened? These guys, if they haven't already moved on, should. It looks like most have. Its all a bit retrospective.

http://www2.deloitte.com/au/en/pages/media-releases/articles/ict-skills-shortage-points-to-enormous-career-opportunities-160615.html
 
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UK selection committee on robotics and automation has reported. Guess what, the UK government are clueless and unprepared for the impact of automation - with a low level of take up, despite the expertise that's recognised by others (eg Google buying up Deepmind). And that's despite it being identified as one of the ‘Eight Great Technologies’ for the UK.

House of Commons - Robotics and artificial intelligence - Science and Technology Committee

On the plus side, at least they have a report saying how bad they are, Australia still has Trunbull thinking his NBN-lite was a 'triumph'...
 
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UK selection committee on robotics and automation has reported. Guess what, the UK government are clueless and unprepared for the impact of automation - with a low level of take up, despite the expertise that's recognised by others (eg Google buying up Deepmind). And that's despite it being identified as one of the ‘Eight Great Technologies’ for the UK.

House of Commons - Robotics and artificial intelligence - Science and Technology Committee

On the plus side, at least they have a report saying how bad they are, Australia still has Trunbull thinking his NBN-lite was a 'triumph'...
Clueless because they didn't buy your view.

They are actually bang on IMHO.

House of Commons - Robotics and artificial intelligence - Science and Technology Committee

16.Google DeepMind told us that “we should expect that new areas of economic activity and employment will be made possible” by the increased use of AI, but that certain types of work and skills will decrease in relevance.27 Some argued that these ‘new areas of economic activity and employment’ would affect the structure of the workforce but would not diminish the overall employment rate in the UK—the creation of new jobs would more than compensate for those directly lost to robots and AI systems.28 As the Global Priorities Project explained:

During the industrial revolution, mechanisation did not change long-run equilibrium employment because new jobs emerged which were unimaginable at that time. Similarly, jobs lost to automation today might be replaced by jobs we cannot yet imagine.29

17.Deloitte was similarly optimistic about the impact of the growth of robotics and AI on the workforce, noting that:

New jobs and, indeed, new industries have been created in the UK as technology has advanced and, looking back over the last century and a half, UK employment has more than doubled during a period of profound technological change.30
 
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Clueless because they didn't buy your view.
No, clueless because they said the UK was clueless on the matter - that was their conclusion.
 
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Looks like Tesla are confident they have the hardware for automation sorted out. They are saying that all currently produced models will have the hardware capabilities for full Cat 5 automation.

Every Tesla Will Now Come With Fully Autonomous Hardware

Software, well that's a different matter. They are claiming autonomous capability by the end of next year, but no idea how long after that you'll be allowed to use it. Oh, and they want more money to turn it on. Cue hacks in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
 
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Now we are getting there..... One major obstacle to overcome outside of the vehicle. That's traffic flow and coping with peaks and troughs. How long before we can get City or peak bound roads changing and assigning more inward and outward lanes at busy times of day. IE: Turning Ballarat Rd and others to 4 or 5 inbound in the morning and vice versa in the evening. I suspect that cant happen until all vehicles are driverless and can communicate with each other.... Well with the appropriate amount of safety measures built in that is.


Maybe a lot of roads will be getting an extra lane, by removing median strips in the not so distant future.

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Old Oct 19th 2016 | 5:07 pm
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Now we are getting there..... One major obstacle to overcome outside of the vehicle. That's traffic flow and coping with peaks and troughs. How long before we can get City or peak bound roads changing and assigning more inward and outward lanes at busy times of day. IE: Turning Ballarat Rd and others to 4 or 5 inbound in the morning and vice versa in the evening. I suspect that cant happen until all vehicles are driverless and can communicate with each other.... Well with the appropriate amount of safety measures built in that is.


Maybe a lot of roads will be getting an extra lane, by removing median strips in the not so distant future.
If you make the 'fast' lane of a multilane road only for autonomous vehicles - then you have scope for changing 3:3 to 2:4 during rush hour, and eventually 1:5. Added advantage, those lanes would have a high capacity if you centrally control them.

Of course, you'll have to keep those manual cars, etc. under control. How long before each car under manual control has to have a warning light on it to alert others there was a human in charge?
 
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This is telling. Even BE can't decide how to run automated vehicle's. The experts have no hope.
 
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I wonder if the software will be "unhackable" i.e. it could be fun sending someone on a joyride from your phone while sitting in the pub.
 
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Sweden now introduced a ban on all drones equipped with cameras. An exception can be applied for but most likely to get denied as it would need to be in the interest of public safety or something. They are now classified as surveillance cameras. That is really incredible. It's not just in populated areas, it's everywhere. How long before the Australian government decide it's a good idea?

I would think that delivery drones won't be in the near future (for Sweden at least) as it would make sense for them to be equipped with cameras for diagnostics/recovery.
 
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Australia's is looking to put in place a series of rule changes over the next two years to allow conditionally autonomous vehicles, will full autonomy accepted from 2020.

In Just Two Years Australian Cars Won't Need A Driver | Gizmodo Australia

Who says it's not happening ?
 


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