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Old Apr 10th 2007 | 5:30 pm
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I've had this new laptop for 5 weeks now - with vista - all our other pc's are xp professional.

I have found it hard to get to grips with and still can't find things, it's also very flaky and unstable, locking up and having a hissy.

I like xp
I may like vista once i've learnt my was around.
 
Old Apr 10th 2007 | 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by JackTheLad
It seems fairly clear cut from the quote from the site that in QLD anyway, plugs are a no no. I seem to remember too that the radio adverts focus on not replacing your own plugs, and also bizarrely on not doing your own wiring for ceiling fans.

I always expect the advert to end with a voice saying "sponsored by the elctricians union of Queensland"
Here we go:

WHICH ELECTRICAL PRODUCTS CAN ONLY BE INSTALLED BY
REGISTERED ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS?

Electrical safety regulations in Australian States and Territories prohibit electrical installing work being carried
out by other than registered electrical contractors or licensed electricians. So although it is legal to buy products
like electrical cable, switches and power points, it is illegal and dangerous for unlicensed persons to install the
items.

The Regulations DO permit unlicensed persons to connect plugs to their own electrical cords. However, the use
of ready made extension cords is encouraged as they may be safer than home wired ones. An incorrectly wired
plug can be fatal.

Source

You can connect your own plugs at home without being a qualified alectrician. However in the work place, according to Workcover (NSW) an unlicenced person may rewire a plug, however must have attended a competency training course to do so.

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Old Apr 10th 2007 | 8:16 pm
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Originally Posted by JenJen
OOoh dear god, really ought to buy a pair of boxing gloves lol

Right don't really want to high jack the thread but would really like some advice???

This pc is really poop might have said before its never a problem for offline stuff but get online and you wait ages sometimes for it to bring up a page and normally in those circumstances it will then crash.
For example today we want to be able to do our Tesco shopping online as we really don't have the time to trail round the supermarket each week and I think when we go in we end up getting things we don't necessarily need then him indoors says 'look how much the bl**dy shopping is' when I start work soon we'll have even less time.
Got as far as clicking for tesco express and then thats it it sits there littlesquares whirring round til it crashes. It does this on some othersites too.
An is particularly annoying if it does it when i'm trying to sort my bank stuff out online.

So if for example I was to get a laptop would this work ok when we eventually get over to Oz, just wondering as someone was saying different countries go by different voltages?
Or is it same in Australia? Can you just switch plugs or use an adapter?
I have to admit I prefer to do alot of my shopping online and using this thing is a pain in the backside when it comes to doing that, it's so slow i've lost out on ebay cause the naffing thing has taken an eternity to change page or register my bid.
If it's not going to work in Oz i'll have to struggle on with this piece of crap cause i don't want to buy something i'll only be usingfor a few months.

It doesn't have to do my washing up or anything, I often need to multitask though so a system that could cope with that would be great, it'd be good to have some decent media capabilities as I love having my media player on if I get desperate I watch a dvd up here away from the kids. Often burn cd's etc.

Anyone who knows anything about computers???
I don't really know too much excepti'd like the computerto work.

Jen



Have you run an adware spyware check? Ad Aware is what i use and its free. There are loads of other ones.

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Old Apr 10th 2007 | 8:29 pm
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here is really no advantage to owning Vista and it screws with your digital media

In what way? Just curious.
 
Old Apr 10th 2007 | 10:08 pm
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If the hardware/software that you are using to play the media isn't on an approved list from Microsoft then the signal is degraded ie playback is deliberately screwed. Also if Vista isn't happy with something on your system ie a piece of hardware 'appears' to be working oddly (even of this hardware isn't involved with digital media) then again it will degrade the playback.

Its all part of the fight against music/video piracy (allegedly)

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Old Apr 10th 2007 | 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by yanH
If the hardware/software that you are using to play the media isn't on an approved list from Microsoft then the signal is degraded ie playback is deliberately screwed. Also if Vista isn't happy with something on your system ie a piece of hardware 'appears' to be working oddly (even of this hardware isn't involved with digital media) then again it will degrade the playback.

Its all part of the fight against music/video piracy (allegedly)
That's about it. They sort of tried to implement it in XP in the online help. The first thing the help always asks you to do is check to see if your hardware is officially compliant with MS. If not, then the help pretty much dries up with a "Go and speak to the manufacturer" comment.

It would be interesting if, in the spirit of competition, MS decided not to include iTunes on their list of acceptable applications...

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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
That's about it. They sort of tried to implement it in XP in the online help. The first thing the help always asks you to do is check to see if your hardware is officially compliant with MS. If not, then the help pretty much dries up with a "Go and speak to the manufacturer" comment.

It would be interesting if, in the spirit of competition, MS decided not to include iTunes on their list of acceptable applications...

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That would be interesting, but only if Microsoft actually offered anything in the way of real competition to Apple Itunes which dominates the market.

However, since Microsoft in '97 bought $150 million US of apple stock its not exactly doing them any harm to see it do well. Especially given Apples current share price.
 
Old Apr 10th 2007 | 11:58 pm
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Originally Posted by yanH
If the hardware/software that you are using to play the media isn't on an approved list from Microsoft then the signal is degraded ie playback is deliberately screwed. Also if Vista isn't happy with something on your system ie a piece of hardware 'appears' to be working oddly (even of this hardware isn't involved with digital media) then again it will degrade the playback.

Its all part of the fight against music/video piracy (allegedly)
So how can they tell if you bought a CD or not? I have shit loads of music on my PC most a paid for some i didnt. So how would they tell. Maybe time to piss off MS MEDIA player and use another media player.
 
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Originally Posted by Jockstar
So how can they tell if you bought a CD or not? I have shit loads of music on my PC most a paid for some i didnt. So how would they tell. Maybe time to piss off MS MEDIA player and use another media player.
May I recommend MediaMonkey. Free version will do everything media player does plus it will allow you to use your Ipod as well :-)

As for Vista... I have stuck Ubuntu (Linux) on our old laptopn and find that easier to use (or at least I will if I ever get the wireless working)

For anyone else looking at Vista, get it if you are getting a new machine. Don't bother to upgrade until they get out SP1 (November 07) as there are too many niggles and problems

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Originally Posted by yanH
What would be the prime motivating factor to 'upgrade' to vista at the moment other that wanting to run something new? As a Linux user I am intrigued by why people would want to part with their hard earned cash (even if it is only a measly $158 as someone pointed out ) when as from what I can see Windows XP is more than capable of doing almost everything (excluding the DRM) that vista can. Obviously vista only software will come out in the future but this clearly isn't the case at the moment.
directx 10....but there aren't any games using it really, won't be for a couple years to make the most of it, so a bit pointless, especially when opengl is probably better and easier to work with.

that and they won't be supporting xp in the long run...still not worth upgrading just yet though.
 
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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
.. Open source based systems are far more efficient and robust. The only thing they don't do well is games. Pretty much everything else is covered.

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The problem isn't that the opensource os do not do games well...but that games manufacturers (along withjsut about any other manufacturer i.e. cd, wireless, dvd etc) do not bother with developing for opensource so the games do not work. THis is going to have to change soon. Linux is now the second most popular OS for desktops (ahead of Mac). What opensource needs is marketing to compete with M$. If opensource continues to get the likes of Google and IBM to back them they might start to make headway with the non techies.
 
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Originally Posted by Jockstar
So how can they tell if you bought a CD or not? I have shit loads of music on my PC most a paid for some i didnt. So how would they tell. Maybe time to piss off MS MEDIA player and use another media player.
I've got vista and everything plays fine and I have some real dodgy stuff.
 
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What I don't understand is whether Linux will just "run" Windows applications, or whether you need to have special programming to do so?
 
Old Apr 12th 2007 | 1:54 am
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Originally Posted by graz79
The problem isn't that the opensource os do not do games well...but that games manufacturers (along withjsut about any other manufacturer i.e. cd, wireless, dvd etc) do not bother with developing for opensource so the games do not work. THis is going to have to change soon. Linux is now the second most popular OS for desktops (ahead of Mac). What opensource needs is marketing to compete with M$. If opensource continues to get the likes of Google and IBM to back them they might start to make headway with the non techies.
It's not going to change soon until there's money...there's money to be had server side, so that's changing...but games, don't be daft...average game costs $2-5M to develop over 1-3 years....and it's not a simple process of porting one over either.
 
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What I don't understand is whether Linux will just "run" Windows applications, or whether you need to have special programming to do so?
there's stuff to run windows apps, lindows is supposed to be windows like...but they tend to fall flat when not using the average desktop application, like CAD, games etc.
 


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