When will Japs stop killing our whales?
Dec 21st 2009, 5:34 pm
#31
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
There used to be a whaling station in Albany, WA - I went there as a small child with my grandfather when we'd visit him on holidays. My mum would sit in the car and cry - it was disgusting and I can still smell it. Having family with stations and farms, I've also seen cattle and poultry slaughtered, the memories aren't nearly as awful.
Everyone should go whale watching - I've been a couple of times with my husband and kids, the experience for me was spiritual. My kids quite often put on home video and the whale watching ones still give me goosebumps and bring tears to my eyes watching them.
Everyone should go whale watching - I've been a couple of times with my husband and kids, the experience for me was spiritual. My kids quite often put on home video and the whale watching ones still give me goosebumps and bring tears to my eyes watching them.
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Dec 21st 2009, 6:04 pm
#32
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
There used to be a whaling station in Albany, WA - I went there as a small child with my grandfather when we'd visit him on holidays. My mum would sit in the car and cry - it was disgusting and I can still smell it. Having family with stations and farms, I've also seen cattle and poultry slaughtered, the memories aren't nearly as awful.
I've been whale watching. Saw a humpback with its baby. It was lovely though wouldn't have called it spiritual. They're certainly beautiful animals and I don't like them being killed. I think it's because they're so intelligent that makes us more compassionate... but then other creatures, such as pigs have equal intelligence and we don't cry over them and the appalling conditions they're kept in.... though thank goodness that is changing and continues to...
I do know that cows sense the panic amongst other cattle when the slaughter happens... in large abattoirs that's nearly impossible to avoid and the meat industry doesn't really care I don't think.
I try to get meat which has at least been humanely slaughtered... I think it's important.
But whales.. yeah. It sucks and I support the Sea Shepherd activity. It's important to monitor any illegal activity.
Dec 21st 2009, 8:14 pm
#33
Auntie Fa
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
But they don't just monitor. Sea Shepherd has been known to ram ships and put people at risk. I can't see how that's ok, even if they are trying to save whales.
I'm all in favour of NVDA (Non-Violent Direct Action) but that's not what they do. They are however masters of PR.
Kim - the Albany whaling station closed down around 1978. It's now a whale watching site.
I'm all in favour of NVDA (Non-Violent Direct Action) but that's not what they do. They are however masters of PR.
Kim - the Albany whaling station closed down around 1978. It's now a whale watching site.
Dec 21st 2009, 10:41 pm
#34
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
But they don't just monitor. Sea Shepherd has been known to ram ships and put people at risk. I can't see how that's ok, even if they are trying to save whales.
I'm all in favour of NVDA (Non-Violent Direct Action) but that's not what they do. They are however masters of PR.
Kim - the Albany whaling station closed down around 1978. It's now a whale watching site.
I'm all in favour of NVDA (Non-Violent Direct Action) but that's not what they do. They are however masters of PR.
Kim - the Albany whaling station closed down around 1978. It's now a whale watching site.
Dec 21st 2009, 10:44 pm
#35
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
They do themselves no favours. People latching onto a cause without any deep belief in it...... It does no one any good.
Dec 21st 2009, 10:50 pm
#36
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
The Sea Shepherds are nothing to do with Greenpeace. Paul Watson was part of early Greenpeace but was booted out many years ago (although the story differs depending on which website you read 
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Dec 21st 2009, 10:51 pm
#37
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
Dec 21st 2009, 11:01 pm
#38
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
Yes, that's a problem. People think, whales, those blokes off the telly - Sea Shepherds - oh yeah and those other eco-terrorists, Greenpeace.
In truth their methods are very different. Some people like SS's methods, high profile nature, and think GP are too namby-pamby. Some people think the opposite.
In truth their methods are very different. Some people like SS's methods, high profile nature, and think GP are too namby-pamby. Some people think the opposite.
Dec 21st 2009, 11:03 pm
#39
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
Yes, that's a problem. People think, whales, those blokes off the telly - Sea Shepherds - oh yeah and those other eco-terrorists, Greenpeace.
In truth their methods are very different. Some people like SS's methods, high profile nature, and think GP are too namby-pamby. Some people think the opposite.
In truth their methods are very different. Some people like SS's methods, high profile nature, and think GP are too namby-pamby. Some people think the opposite.
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Dec 21st 2009, 11:15 pm
#40
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
Prawns - even farmed prawns - are not an eco-friendly seafood.
Must admit I enjoyed my prawn dim sum for lunch though
Must admit I enjoyed my prawn dim sum for lunch though
Dec 21st 2009, 11:22 pm
#41
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
When did I/we say we cared if it was eco-friendly? I want to pig out. With my oysters, bugs, crab and calamari.......shame no whale steaks....hoping the MIL can find us some tinned whale to send over.
Dec 21st 2009, 11:24 pm
#42
Auntie Fa
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
Oh I have no illusions that you are seriously interested in this thread. 
Dec 22nd 2009, 7:25 am
#44
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
Yeah I know, my grandfather ended up moving back to Albany from Denmark about 20 years ago and ended up buying a house right on Frenchman Bay, not too far from the old whaling station. I went down there last January for a family reunion, the place has changed a lot.
Dec 22nd 2009, 8:01 am
#45
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Re: When will Japs stop killing our whales?
This is said to be an excellent read http://www.fremantlepress.com.au/books/1058 although I haven't yet managed to pick up a copy.
