What punishment would you expect from a school?
Sep 6th 2011 | 4:35 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
Well the school refuse to 'add anything' to his punishment. Two days exclusion is all that he will be given. He is participating in the sport carnival today, whilst we spent 2 hours at the fracture clinic with my son nearly fainting 
He will NOT be exlcuded from the Prestigious school event (unless he does anything to warranty his exclusion over the next week). My OH did ask the Principal what would warrant that, if breaking someone's bone wasn't serious enough? A stabbing perhaps?
The school asked my son to sit round a table with his friend yesterday to discuss things and clear the air, but his mate wasn't prepared to do this and (in the school's words - was still angry!). My son texted me in tears yesterday to come and collect him as a certain teacher told his friends to 'give X a wide berth for the rest of the term, at least' - again, isolating my son, not the 'attacker'. This staff member also told the witnesses that we had involved the police - I don't think this was his place to do so.
The Principal has arranged to sit down with the two boys tomorrow (should the other boy decide that he's 'up to it') and we'll see how it goes from there. The Principal did also phone me later in the day to suggest that it would not bode well with the other family 'if the police contacted them prior to tomorrow'. I was gobsmacked and asked him 'exactly what are you asking me to do?' as it sounded very much like he was asking me to withdraw our complaint to the Police. Seeing as the school have effectively given him two days off school to do as he likes, it has made us even more determined to follow this through.
I am gutted by the school's apparent lack of support for my son! They have (and I quote), 'made such progress and come so far with this other lad in the last year' that they don't want to do anything to jeapodise this
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He will NOT be exlcuded from the Prestigious school event (unless he does anything to warranty his exclusion over the next week). My OH did ask the Principal what would warrant that, if breaking someone's bone wasn't serious enough? A stabbing perhaps?
The school asked my son to sit round a table with his friend yesterday to discuss things and clear the air, but his mate wasn't prepared to do this and (in the school's words - was still angry!). My son texted me in tears yesterday to come and collect him as a certain teacher told his friends to 'give X a wide berth for the rest of the term, at least' - again, isolating my son, not the 'attacker'. This staff member also told the witnesses that we had involved the police - I don't think this was his place to do so.
The Principal has arranged to sit down with the two boys tomorrow (should the other boy decide that he's 'up to it') and we'll see how it goes from there. The Principal did also phone me later in the day to suggest that it would not bode well with the other family 'if the police contacted them prior to tomorrow'. I was gobsmacked and asked him 'exactly what are you asking me to do?' as it sounded very much like he was asking me to withdraw our complaint to the Police. Seeing as the school have effectively given him two days off school to do as he likes, it has made us even more determined to follow this through.
I am gutted by the school's apparent lack of support for my son! They have (and I quote), 'made such progress and come so far with this other lad in the last year' that they don't want to do anything to jeapodise this
Angry of Secret Harbour.
Sep 6th 2011 | 4:38 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
.....and this too!!!! Excellent idea.
Sep 6th 2011 | 4:39 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
I don't want to make the situation any tougher for him. I'm just disgusted at how he is being made to feel (and us, as parents!).
Thanks, MP
Sep 6th 2011 | 4:45 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
It beggars belief.What message is this sending to the victims.I presume that the parents have yet to contact you.The boy x seems to be showing no remorse what so ever.Has bullying been mentioned in the school news letter.If anything would make me more determined to involve the police would be this latest action.
The school pussy footed around her yesterday and called me to say that 'Mrs X is happy for us to speak to her son tomorrow.....' This is when the Principal intimated that we withdraw our official complaint.
I've just dropped into the school to support my other two kids at the sport carnival and my heart was breaking watching him sat there, looking white as a sheet whilst everyone else was involved having a good time. He's now at home on the sofa and looks absolutely drained.
The Principal did say that perhaps the other child was just showing bravado and was, in fact, very embarrassed - not to put words into his mouth... and just needed to have a good long think about his actions'. Yes, well, he'll be able to do that for 48 hours on the bus all the way to Adelaide with his friends whilst my son struggles on excluded from things - like woodwork, where he was asked to leave the room yesterday as he couldn't participate with his arm in a cast.
Sep 6th 2011 | 4:49 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
Still no contact from the boy or his family.
The school pussy footed around her yesterday and called me to say that 'Mrs X is happy for us to speak to her son tomorrow.....' This is when the Principal intimated that we withdraw our official complaint.
I've just dropped into the school to support my other two kids at the sport carnival and my heart was breaking watching him sat there, looking white as a sheet whilst everyone else was involved having a good time. He's now at home on the sofa and looks absolutely drained.
The Principal did say that perhaps the other child was just showing bravado and was, in fact, very embarrassed - not to put words into his mouth... and just needed to have a good long think about his actions'. Yes, well, he'll be able to do that for 48 hours on the bus all the way to Adelaide with his friends whilst my son struggles on excluded from things - like woodwork, where he was asked to leave the room yesterday as he couldn't participate with his arm in a cast.
The school pussy footed around her yesterday and called me to say that 'Mrs X is happy for us to speak to her son tomorrow.....' This is when the Principal intimated that we withdraw our official complaint.
I've just dropped into the school to support my other two kids at the sport carnival and my heart was breaking watching him sat there, looking white as a sheet whilst everyone else was involved having a good time. He's now at home on the sofa and looks absolutely drained.
The Principal did say that perhaps the other child was just showing bravado and was, in fact, very embarrassed - not to put words into his mouth... and just needed to have a good long think about his actions'. Yes, well, he'll be able to do that for 48 hours on the bus all the way to Adelaide with his friends whilst my son struggles on excluded from things - like woodwork, where he was asked to leave the room yesterday as he couldn't participate with his arm in a cast.
Education dept pronto, give them seven days to respond.
Police too.
This too shall pass. Eventually.
Best wishes
Sep 6th 2011 | 6:21 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
I don't know if my judgement has been clouded by the fact that I'm so damn angry - that's why this is such a good place to gather opinion.
I don't want to make the situation any tougher for him. I'm just disgusted at how he is being made to feel (and us, as parents!).
Thanks, MP
I don't want to make the situation any tougher for him. I'm just disgusted at how he is being made to feel (and us, as parents!).
Thanks, MP
Sep 6th 2011 | 6:28 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
But what if your son had been picked for this Adelaide thing? He wouldn't be going would he, through absolutely no fault of his own. Your son is being punished far more than this scrote. He's missing his lessons, he's missed his sports day, he's basically been told he's trouble and kids should avoid him. No one else is going to stand up for your son. You need to stay angry to a certain extent.
Our son is going to miss out on his soccer finals - which he's worked hard all year to achieve - as well as being in plaster for his birthday (which limits him as well as we were going to take him karting
) Last year he had a pool party with his friends - can't do that either 
Sep 6th 2011 | 6:34 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
I know. That's what we've repeatedly tried telling the school all the sacrifices our son is having to make, but they don't give a stuff! We emailed the Head of Middle school to say we thought it was an insult if he was still allowed to go on this trip. All they are saying is he's worked hard to lead up to it and they have issued what they feel is a suitable punishment and they are not prepared to add any more to it.
Our son is going to miss out on his soccer finals - which he's worked hard all year to achieve - as well as being in plaster for his birthday (which limits him as well as we were going to take him karting ) Last year he had a pool party with his friends - can't do that either
Our son is going to miss out on his soccer finals - which he's worked hard all year to achieve - as well as being in plaster for his birthday (which limits him as well as we were going to take him karting
) Last year he had a pool party with his friends - can't do that either
Sep 6th 2011 | 6:44 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
I know. That's what we've repeatedly tried telling the school all the sacrifices our son is having to make, but they don't give a stuff! We emailed the Head of Middle school to say we thought it was an insult if he was still allowed to go on this trip. All they are saying is he's worked hard to lead up to it and they have issued what they feel is a suitable punishment and they are not prepared to add any more to it.
Our son is going to miss out on his soccer finals - which he's worked hard all year to achieve - as well as being in plaster for his birthday (which limits him as well as we were going to take him karting ) Last year he had a pool party with his friends - can't do that either
Our son is going to miss out on his soccer finals - which he's worked hard all year to achieve - as well as being in plaster for his birthday (which limits him as well as we were going to take him karting
) Last year he had a pool party with his friends - can't do that either do it
Sep 6th 2011 | 6:47 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
I found what worked the best for us was when we told our son's school we would be bringing a reporter from channel 9 and our lawyer to the next meeting with the principal so they could explain their policies to our legal advisor and the media.
Stay angry and let the school know you will not be bullied into letting this go. You are only trying to do what's best for your child and the school are setting a very bad example for the students when they condone this type of behaviour from one of the pupils.
Stay angry and let the school know you will not be bullied into letting this go. You are only trying to do what's best for your child and the school are setting a very bad example for the students when they condone this type of behaviour from one of the pupils.
Sep 6th 2011 | 6:51 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
Amazulu - we've done it. Didn't feel like we had an option not to, really given the school's attitude. Not happy with a member of the teaching staff telling the girls (who will be contacted by the police to give statements) that we've involved the police. Think this should have come directly from the police rather than a teacher tittle tattling and worrying the kids before they've been contacted
Again, it makes us out to be the bad guys.
Sep 6th 2011 | 7:09 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
I know it would (maybe) look like you're in the wrong but is it possible to get him in another school if you're worried about how he'll get treated in future? He's obviously got mates where he is but this early in the high school life wouldn't have long term issues (I don't think). To be honest I wouldn't worry about being seen as awkward or troublesome parents. If it became public, most parents would agree with your point of view, especially if this lad is known to be aggressive.
Sep 6th 2011 | 7:50 pm
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Re: What punishment would you expect from a school?
I know it would (maybe) look like you're in the wrong but is it possible to get him in another school if you're worried about how he'll get treated in future? He's obviously got mates where he is but this early in the high school life wouldn't have long term issues (I don't think). To be honest I wouldn't worry about being seen as awkward or troublesome parents. If it became public, most parents would agree with your point of view, especially if this lad is known to be aggressive.
