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You aren't making sense.

You asked "You are not seriously suggesting Dave would have created a budget surplus post 2008?"

I answered with "Its your story"

So answering the latest question. No I didn't, but the fact remains Labour has created deficits in both countries. The Liberals and Conservatives have not. What more do you need?

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:goodpost:

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Do a bit of research before you open your trap please.

John Howard:

IMF says Howard Most Wasteful Spender

John Major (last Tory PM before Labour):

https://www.facebook.com/notes/nobod...50149392738182

You think Libs and Tories don't do deficits but the reality and the proof is otherwise.

What more do you need?

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This is becoming sad on 3 levels.

1. You need to go back to the last century to find some dirt.

2. You seem to oppose the idea of fisical spending during a surplus. Gotta be better than the Rudd Harvey Norman gift voucher.

3. You took typically leftist approach of being offensive when things don't work out. Opposition should be there to oppose for good reasons. Not to oppose so they can personally attack. See Shortens budget speech this morning. Like or loath the budget it had little substance - lot of offence.

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What is sad is that you don't acknowledge the claims you made which can be easily disproved. Go back to your claims that Blair could have prevented the GFC/caused the GFC/caused the budget deficit; go back to your claims that Labour causes deficits/Libs and Tories don't.

Major was the PM before Blair/Brown who governed so long that I had to go back that far - that's why I quoted his record on deficits. The UK didn't go from budget surplus to budget deficit with the change of government.

Er Howard was PM before Gillard/Rudd and well into this century and see his record.

Centre ground just seems 'leftist' to you. :rofl:

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Oh and Dave campaigned on how strong the economy was/is:

UK economic growth slows to 0.3% - BBC News

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But you are clutching at straws. You posted a facebook thread written by a group called "no one likes a Tory". How can this be taken seriously? All there articles you post are so left and so one eyed.

John Major not great but so what. Long time ago and many would argue that Maggie and he set Britain up so beautifully for Tony and his surplus in 2002. Tony then went a blew it in great prosperous times.

Seriously though, would you seriously see Ed Milliband and Shorten potential leaders? No chance.

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:goodpost::thumbup::thumbsup:

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That article was written before the election. Clearly the voters gave a shit. :)

Link after link. Hey check out this article.

http://m.smh.com.au/business/federal-budget/bill-shorten-evades-questions-from-neil-mitchell-on-labor-deficit-13-times-20150513-gh0mwa.html

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TA is not that great a PM but is streets ahead of that commie asshat

Heaven help us if he ever gets to be our leader

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Which part of these bits of evidence do you refute (I know you don't want to believe them and you think Tories do this and that but that's irrelevant)?

• Average annual spending and taxation were both lower as a proportion of GDP under the last 3 Labour Governments (38% and 35.4%) than under the 4 Conservative governments which preceded them (40% and 35.5%).

• National debt was lower as a proportion of GDP at the start of the financial crisis in 2008 (36%) than in 1997, the last year of John Major’s Conservative government (42%).

• In 2010, the UK’s national debt as a proportion of GDP (52%) was the second lowest of the G7 countries.

And don't just refute them because of where they come from; do some research and prove otherwise; until then you possibly could be wrong.

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Why was the 2014 budget savaged with most major changes not getting through and TA's leadership threatened by his own party? He just won a vote of confidence when there was no opponent to beat!

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Current UK National Debt Numbers
Gross National Debt
FY 2015* £1.36 trillion
FY 2014 £1.26 trillion
FY 2013 £1.19 trillion
FY 2012 £1.10 trillion
FY 2011 £0.91 trillion
FY 2010 £0.76 trillion
FY 2009 £0.62 trillion
FY 2008 £0.53 trillion

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Your story, great stories, but little relevance as to where we are today and quiet well crafted to suit your motive. I can equally produce some stats which show your Labour government in some pretty damning light.

Tony Blair can't escape blame for trashing the economy - Spectator Blogs

I do like your last stat though. The G7 countries. You do know which they include right and you do know where the world was in 2010 right?

The fact remains, Tony Blair increased debt under his reign in prosperous times and it was under his watch banks took excessive risks which forced the government to bail out banks, something you in the UK are all paying for today and will for some time to come.

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These are great graphs. What they show is how Labour increased their debt in the lead up to the Financial Crisis. Tut Tut ..... naughty boys that Tony and Gordon.

Then the government were forced to pile money into the banking system, the debt naturally rose.

What we see now is the debt tapering off and if the curve followings on that trajectory should be heading downward in the next year or 2. Well done to David and team.