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GarryP May 6th 2015 5:12 pm

UK election results thread
 
Since we are less than one hour from the polls opening, I thought now would be a good time for a little poll of our own.

Currently the two main parties stand equal on vote %ages, with the predicted seats being
Labour 276
Conservatives 272
SNP 52
Liberal Democrats 24
Other 19
Plaid Cymru 3
Ukip 3
Green Party 1
plus of minus a few, depending on who you ask. So what do you think the final outcome will be, when the horsetrading has been completed?

JoeBloggs80 May 6th 2015 5:35 pm

Re: UK election results thread
 
Lab/SNP looks the most likely outcome but its more than possible we do the dance again in a few months.

A lot of variables though. Going to be a very interesting one. I'll be glued to it.

themajor May 6th 2015 6:24 pm

Re: UK election results thread
 
It will be a very close run thing and I feel sure that a coalition is the only option. Hoping that the Tories get back in.

GarryP May 6th 2015 6:41 pm

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Originally Posted by themajor (Post 11639181)
It will be a very close run thing and I feel sure that a coalition is the only option. Hoping that the Tories get back in.

Well, currently the two front runner options amongst the pundits are SNP adhoc support of Labour (essentially a Labour Minority government), or Cameron it threatening to squat in 10 Downing Street and refuse to come out (you think I'm joking, I'm not), a Conservative Minority government.

Personally I think that when push comes to shove and liars are made of some politicians (sic) there will be a more formal coalition - but if you took them at their words I think a coalition is verboten.

Beoz May 6th 2015 6:52 pm

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OK. I haven't lived in the UK for a bit over 4 years now, but David Cameron was voted in for a reason. Labour was just shite and the country needed someone to guide the economics through the European troubles. Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't DC and his mates done that? And with things in Europe not exactly humdinging would you put your trust in the un-tested and un-tried?

GarryP May 6th 2015 7:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11639199)
OK. I haven't lived in the UK for a bit over 4 years now, but David Cameron was voted in for a reason. Labour was just shite and the country needed someone to guide the economics through the European troubles. Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't DC and his mates done that? And with things in Europe not exactly humdinging would you put your trust in the un-tested and un-tried?

Two big problems with that reading.

First, the situation with Labour everyone would agree was due to the GFC, which they can't be held accountable for. Would have been nice to have had more in the pot, but as both this and last Australian governments have demonstrated, that's a trick that's beyond politicians of all hues.

Second, the austerity approach of Cameron has been judged to have made things worse, and actively impeded the economy from recovery (whilst making the city bankers responsible for the mess in the first place happy). That the economy has staggered back to anaemic growth (just, it's likely to end soon) isn't a plus point for Cameron.

And finally, if you are looking at honking big risks - well Cameron's insistence on having an EU vote as a red line means the Tories are the risk option.

Beoz May 6th 2015 8:17 pm

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Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 11639214)
Two big problems with that reading.

First, the situation with Labour everyone would agree was due to the GFC, which they can't be held accountable for. Would have been nice to have had more in the pot, but as both this and last Australian governments have demonstrated, that's a trick that's beyond politicians of all hues.

Second, the austerity approach of Cameron has been judged to have made things worse, and actively impeded the economy from recovery (whilst making the city bankers responsible for the mess in the first place happy). That the economy has staggered back to anaemic growth (just, it's likely to end soon) isn't a plus point for Cameron.

And finally, if you are looking at honking big risks - well Cameron's insistence on having an EU vote as a red line means the Tories are the risk option.

Well if you want to blame the bankers, wasn't that under Labors watch?

GarryP May 6th 2015 8:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11639268)
Well if you want to blame the bankers, wasn't that under Labors watch?

All of them - I haven't seen any jailed during Cameron's reign ....

Realistically the finance industry has all of the UK politicians by the short and curlies.

Beoz May 6th 2015 9:10 pm

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Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 11639284)
All of them - I haven't seen any jailed during Cameron's reign ....

Realistically the finance industry has all of the UK politicians by the short and curlies.

Jailed for what? When did greed become a criminal offence?

GarryP May 6th 2015 9:29 pm

Re: UK election results thread
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11639308)
Jailed for what? When did greed become a criminal offence?

Fraud?

Remember all those AAA securities that, weren't?

You are kind of right that there aren't sufficient crimes that would deal with their behaviour (since they paid to ensure they weren't). An engineer is legally liable for his work if a bridge collapses, but a banker isn't if the security ends up being worthless.

Even so, there were enough instances of fraud, etc. that the courts should have been busy.

Tr1boy May 6th 2015 9:38 pm

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Is it time for Bernard's famous quote yet? :lol:

xizzles May 6th 2015 9:56 pm

Re: UK election results thread
 
Scenarios like these make me quite happy that I've not lived in the UK for the past 20 plus years and by the looks of things, will never for the next 20! Talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place....

Beoz May 7th 2015 9:47 am

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Early exit polls are looking good for conservatives.

GarryP May 7th 2015 9:58 am

Re: UK election results thread
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11639952)
Early exit polls are looking good for conservatives.

Indeed. 316 for the Tories would be well outside the margin of error for all the polls over the election campaign.

Someone is going to end up with egg on their face at the end of the night.

renth May 7th 2015 10:04 am

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Currency markets and Renth liking these exit polls GBP:AUD 1.9515


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