Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 11646538)

You still not realising that to have a viable economy you have to be selling something, and not importing everything?

And Shorten seemed to be talking sense in his budget reply - so needless to say it didn't get much coverage....

Australian opposition floats startups-and-STEM stimulus plan • The Register

STEM and startup support - now there's an idea....

Originally Posted by Gibbo (Post 11646539)

Consecutive Westminster governments, for a very long time, have governed mainly for London and the SE of England and have ignored the needs of every other part of the UK . This is why Scotland, for want of a better phrase, wants out and the north of England, Wales and N Ireland are not exactly happy. Westminster politicians have to take a really hard look at themselves and their action if they want to preserve the Union.

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 11646541)

Cameron looks likely to give the regions what they want - local decision making, local setting of service levels - but funded by local taxes.

Scotland, N England, Wales and N Ireland might well find that they have been doing very well out of the existing situation.

Economy of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In other words, rather than taking a too big slice of the pie, London and the SE have actually been bailing out the rest of the country.

Originally Posted by Gibbo (Post 11646542)

Simply don't agree that they are bailing out the rest of the country especially Scotland. I know you disagree but let's just agree to differ as I will never agree with you on that point.

Originally Posted by OzTennis (Post 11645565)

You are looking at the same set of stats aren't you? The national debt has nearly doubled under the Tories and has increased by more than what the national debt was before GFC. Ah, I know, blame Blair, blame the GFC..

Arguing with a staunch conservative is like and I won't continue to:

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11646402)

I see no evidence of the far left creating things and importantly keeping a managed lid on things any more than the central right do. :). But please, throw me the evidence, I'm happy to be persuaded otherwise.

And take Maggie as you will. If you call deregulating the financial industry so ordinary Britons can take advantage of shares and mortgages which help to bust wide open the union movement, well awesome, but that's probably for another thread.

Originally Posted by OzTennis (Post 11645778)

You are really still seriously suggesting that Labour caused or could have prevented the GFC aren't you ('happened on Labour's watch')? :rofl:Pray tell how Labour (or any UK government) could have prevented the collapse of Lehmann Brothers and the profligacy of American bankers?

The national debt has grown £0.6 trillion since Cameron came to power and the total was of this order before he came to power i.e. the Conservatives have added to the National Debt in 5 years what governments over many hundreds of years accumulated. This from the budget deficit reducing/national debt reducing party. (anticipates we need another 5 years to clean up the mess we inherited) :rofl:

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11646567)

If debt increased under the right with austerity, how much would it have gone up if the UK/West-hating left had clung onto power?

Shitloads more

Continued austerity but harsher and deeper, the culling of civil servant numbers, privatisations (including large swathes of the NHS) and the winding back of welfare will see the debt pile reduce. They're on the right track anyway

The next 5 years are going to great for the UK

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 11646580)

More of your dick head right wing posturing....you need a new script

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11646583)

Another of BE's truly great right-wingers has joined the thread

Onya Enoch

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 11646587)

Well Australia will soon have a Labour government so you better get used to it:lol:

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11646589)

And you're heading back to an even more right-wing government

Gotta be happy about that you jammy git

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 11646590)

I'm already back and will be doing my bit for the labour party:thumbup:

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11646596)

Hallelujah

At least you're living under your preferred government now

Enjoy