OzTennis

It has been called a terrorist incident by the PM. The sage in my paper shop this morning was asking in all seriousness, how can it be terrorist when muslims are the victims?

We need to find out how this fascist was radicalised; perhaps he's spent too much time in a paper shop?

Beoz

According to this definition, had the guy stood out the front of the mosque and shouted offences, that's terrorism because its unlawful and its intimidation.

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

old.sparkles

Where did that definition come from?

Beoz

Maybe he had to wait until 6pm for a meeting with his Islam colleague because his colleague was fasting all day and his brain was in no fit shape to have a meeting before he ate.

Lucky I am a tolerant man. On the other hand, my wife was pissed I got home late.

OzTennis

You and tolerance - no evidence; you and pissed - yes, judging by that meaningless drivel above.

Amazulu

WTF? Seriously? I was responding to Ozzie's post where he said that if this Finsbury Park asshole was foreign or had foreign ancestry, he and his family should be deported. I was agreeing with him and said that muslims on the terrorist suspect list and their families should also be deported. So any distinction between muslims and non-muslims is in your head only. I believe that if an asshole is on that list, he or she and their families should be deported immediately if they are immigrants, or if they are UK-born but have foreign ancestry, they should have their citizenship revoked and they and their families also deported. Yes, this is harsh and discriminatory - discriminatory against dickheads. These people are going to have to lose some civil liberties in order to keep the majority safe

Doing nothing and business as usual is not an option

The root cause of what is going on is the failed multiculturalist and PC policies of successive UK governments, where intolerance has been tolerated and integration has been an option not an obligation. The UK has created this problem themselves, but because this blows away the carefully crafted fantasy world that you live in, where only individuals are to blame, you cannot accept it. Your world has ended

Each to their own

Amazulu

Terrible publications (along with the Mirror) and I will never quote or use them but unfortunately, some of those headlines are true (and some are just bullshit):

Some muslims have told Britain and the British to go to hell
Certain muslims have called for full sharia law in the UK
Christianity is under attack from islam
There was a muslim plot to kill the pope
There have been requests for muslim-only public toilets
etc

Just because a shitty newspaper publishes something, it doesn't mean it is necessarily false - and likewise, just because some muslims demand something, it doesn't mean they get it

Hope this helps

OzTennis

A job writing for one of those 'shitty newspapers' clearly awaits you judging by this and many of your other rants which would appeal to their readership for sure.

Donald Trump’s daughter, Ivanka, has tweeted her “love and prayers” to the victims of the Finsbury Park attack.
She added: “We must stand united against hatred and extremism in all its ugly forms.” Nothing yet from her father.

Beoz

Why the doubt? You didn't read it in the Guardian?

Can you give us an update on last night's Eastenders?

Beoz

A golden opportunity missed for Donald. No doubt he will be back for the revenge attacks.

scrubbedexpat098

Sounds like the sort of idiot who thinks white people can't be the victims of racism

bcworld

GarryP

Governments have being playing around with the definition of terrorism since before 2001, First to try to ensure that what they and their friends do are not classified as terrorism, then to try to ensure that anything anyone they don't like does IS classified, so they can use those overbroad laws they pushed through against them.

Frankly government definitions are junk, perverted out of all recognition.

In basic terms, if you use fear ('terror') to attempt to push voters into behaving in certain ways that they won't rationally do - then that's terrorism. You can readily understand just how many political and media terrorists there really are.

This particular idiot had no intent to push or shape political views, he was just lashing out at a group in response to the messages that had been pushed at him (and a large degree of personal stupidity). So, not a terrorist - although a case CAN be made for the media.

Beoz

From time to time, we agree on things.

ozzieeagle

Turns out he's Welsh.

Finsbury Park Mosque attacker, identified as Darren Osborne, 47, being held for terrorism, attempted murder - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Dont think he's neighbour thought to much of him.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/neighbo...a-complete-c-t