Turnbull survives spill 48-35, but mortally wounded
 

Turnbull called the spill, Dutton stood, but the result was far too close for Turnbull, and now it's expected that he will fall within a week or so.

Dutton, Tony Abbott, Eric Abetz, Kevin Andrews, Andrew Hastie are the cabinet member who got the knives out.

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Talk is of another challenge as soon as Thursday.

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I was thinking this morning what a joke Aussie politics has become. Then listening to my local 2AY (part of the Ace network) this morning ... I listen for the giggles mostly; never had I heard such wilful ignorance from their dinosaur presenters ... anyway, there was an interview with Nigel Farage. Now I never thought I'd say this, but I actually agreed with him on something. Yep, Aussie politics is comical. I've been here almost 6 years and about to have our sixth PM (probably/possibly/who knows) but Farage actually made a good point. It's not just Aussie politics, WORLD politics is a joke right now. In the UK we have May the Brexit debacle; plus the Labour party internal debacles. USA has Trump (I don't think Clinton was much of an alternative though). Where ISN'T politics a joke right now?!

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Agree - I've been saying the same for years

We've had relative peace and prosperity for decades - soft times. Soft times breed soft leaders - and vice versa. There are a few exceptions though, great leaders in soft times - Thatcher, Reagan, Howard etc

Cometh the hour, cometh the man is very relevant

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North Korea . I don't think they're allowed to joke about politics.

But, yes. I agree that politics the world over is a joke.

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Russia, China, Turkey

You make joke about glorious leader, you don't wake up. Dobby, Winnie the Pooh, and Gollum really don't like jokes.

Smart, useful, trustworthy people don't get into politics - why would they? You can make much more money in industry or banking (cough Trunbull). Plus you don't actually have much freedom to do anything (since the paymasters call the shots and the political in-trading limits policy). And finally, the press and idiots besiege you on all sides.

If you are smart, useful and trustworthy, you do what you want to do, and if the politics or red tape get in the way, you buy a politician to act as your agent. Someone else can deal with the authoritarian, power crazed, nutters.

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Talk is now that Dutton's eligibility to be an MP is going to be referred to the Solicitor General by the Attorney General. Maybe Turnbull is developing a backbone and a killer instinct - albeit a bit late.

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LOL...you really couldn't even make this stuff up!

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House of Cards is pretty close

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OK, current state of the battleground has a letter getting signed for a new party room and thus vote, potentially tonight. Potentially Corman has switched sides, or maybe not.

Looks like another vote inside 24 hours.

However, there is a further issue that the crossbenchers and nationals aren't necessarily very happy, and if Dutton gets PM, Labor might call a vote on no confidence AND be able to get the numbers, meaning an election before the seat is even cold.

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That's it, he's screwed.

Cormann, Fifield, and a criminal, just stood up and said they resigned and supported change. Cormann controls a block - which means Turnbull is dead. It's only now a matter of it being accepted publicly.

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They've lost the plot. All these conservative voters they've lost to Bernardi, Pauline etc...ultimately, despite all the noise these people make, they get them back on the 2PP basis. Now they stand to lose all the actual swing voters in the centre. Shorten must be loving this!

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There was a joke about Labor holding an urgent meeting about how to pull defeat from the jaws of victory.

Frankly Labor now need to get an election called. If they can do that then the coalition have neither the money or organisation to fight and will lose spectacularly. Dutton will move from a fight to get power to a fight to keep it - Labor will bring all his many faults to fore.

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Morrison has now said he's standing.

Jim Hacker to the fore.....

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When you've descided who the Australian PM is going to be can you send us an e-mail? I don't see any reason the rest of is need to be involved in this when we are wasting valuable drinking time.

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Which is kind of why we are in this mess in the first place - people don't play attention, vote on the basis of ignorance, and before you know where you are you have a Trump.

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I hate to agree with you, but you're right

Swinging voters will look at this circus and think, let's give the other side a go

Then we get Shorten - who is deeply incompetent and beholden to the CFMEU

We're f**ked

Time for me to start putting feelers out about the HS2 project in the UK or LNG plants in Texas

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Just as well the rest of us have ignorance and prejudice to work with.

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We would be so lucky if we did

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Looks like Turnbull is going to try to knife Dutton on the way out, with him calling a party room for midday tomorrow after the solicitor general gets back with a judgement on if Dutton is eligible to be there as an MP at all, in the morning.

Who knew he had so much of a spine.

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Would the Liberals really vote in someone that did this?

Talk about an unelectable option. Why on earth are they committing Hari Kari?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefa...BBA#.vue9NbyyN

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It's a hot house of stupidity - they are frightened of Hanson taking their racist voters in Queensland, so they want their' own racist to match.

As it is, I think Turnbull might have played a blinder here. I said he needed to grow a backbone and refer Dutton, and it looks like he will do so in a way, and a set of circumstances, that will cut the legs from under the far right wingers. If they don't step back, they could be in an election inside weeks - one they will lose badly.

It wouldn't save Turnbull forever, but by the time this comes round again they should have been told in no uncertain terms that Dutton = Death - which will get Turnbull to the election next year.

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Channel 7: Julie Bishop to have a go!

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Yep Dutton is a puppet, too stupid to realise he's being played by Abbott & his faithful press hound Credlin, some kind of sick revenge for Turnbull ousting him as leader. They don't care who ends up as leader as long as it's not Turnbull. Abbott is happy to bring down the govt. sick puppy. As a party they were only just behind Labour now they are as unelectable as Bungalow Bill was after knifing Rudd. All Shorten has to do is sit and watch and within 12 months the CFMEU will be running the country. Shorten the man that knifed Gillard & Rudd in the back in his bid for power will make it via a power mad ex-cop, it's the stuff of farfetched script writers. It makes compulsory voting a joke. The only good news is that this might just raise Julie Bishop up to leader of the Libs............phworrrrrrr

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Bishop appears to be the people's favourite. Probably best outcome for WA as well. Too leftist for the chest thumping right wing of the party apparently, who prefer to take the party ever more Right.
Not a good look for politics in general. Just turn more off the main centralist parties into fringe parties. No one can give a reason for the turmoil outside , outside of wrecking revenge and self interest.

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It's a clusterf**k - entirely of their own making - although our dysfunctional senate bears a lot of the responsibilty

Abbott is a wrecker in this case but he also has the ability to really take the fight to the socialists. Whoever gets the gig has to bring him into the cabinet as an attack dog and get stuck into Shorten and his CFMEU masters on a daily basis - really get under their skin. He'll get cut through and may give the LNP a glimmer. Shorten/CFMEU will wreck the economy and the Nauru/Manus economic migrants will be on the next plane to Australia

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Good. However as someone said, the right won't like that.

The people will and probably the only chance the Libs have at the next election.

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As I was driving home yesterday there was a pall of smoke rising over the city...I thought maybe Andrew Bolt had spontaneously combusted at the Bishop news!

So she could get through the election and this whole business starts again 1 month in?

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The strange thing is the ALP are pushing for Dutton to be excluded from parliament over his wife's child care centers.

That's a strange ploy to take. You would think the ALP would want Dutton as the front man given how unpopular he is with the people.

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Lee Lin Chin for Wentworth!

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Ouch, she would win a landslide, and the offer is only open to the greens and labor.

Can the libs get Shane Warne to stand?

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ABC are saying it's Scott Morrison who's won.

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And the vote split right down the middle. They've done all this for nothing!

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Frydenberg deputy! Hahaha. Looks like the lefties are still in control...that will go down well!

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Cool, shall we do this again...next week perhaps? :blink:

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Well they have thrown into sharp relief that they are a complete shower who couldn't find their arse with both hands and are totally divided. There is that.

I wonder how long before there is a vote of no confidence, it was very close yesterday ...

Polls will be interesting ...

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Thank you Comrade Abbott your subversive undermining work is much appreciated.

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ScoMo might placate certain elements of the LNP.
He isn't going to placate Tony's wrecking crew.
Nothing is going to placate the average voter over this mess of the past weeks.

Can't say his performances in front of the press have been particularly impressive.

One of the first groups to pass on their congratulations to one of their own........The Australian Christian Lobby. Not sure how that will sit with some people.

And, I'm going to get him as my MP in 10 days when I move back to the Shire after 4 years away. Seems I have a habit of this. Last place I lived in the UK until 2016 was Bray where Theresa May was my local MP.

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For what it's worth Morrison has been the MP for the shire for a long time now. Probably nearing a decade without me checking the facts. You had him before. And the Shire has always been a blue ribbon liberal area. Hardly a case of pot luck for you. Enjoy "Gods Country". Mind the pun.

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You are a sick man. There is no future for anyone in that silly flag.