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-   -   Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/talk-mosque-2-blocks-away-ground-zero-683464/)

RenShen Aug 30th 2010 11:00 pm
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by mohogony (Post 8815440)
" its two blocks way so its OK" l wonder if American Christains would be allowed to build a church 2 blocks from Mecca. If they even mentioned the idea their lives would be in danger.
I don't really see what point you are trying to make here. It sounds a bit tit for tat.

bcworld Aug 30th 2010 11:06 pm
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by mohogony (Post 8815440)
" its two blocks way so its OK" l wonder if American Christains would be allowed to build a church 2 blocks from Mecca. If they even mentioned the idea their lives would be in danger.
Not sure...but they were allowed to build Mecca next to the church in Dundee!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/...9fa64a9397.jpg

moneypenny20 Aug 30th 2010 11:11 pm
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by Mr Kilt (Post 8815667)
Well say for example I wanted to build a large pie shop in a part of NY but there was huge opposition due to a few dodgy pies being responsible for killing folk a while back. There was uproar and people were really offended. I would think to myself...well my pies are good to go but it is probably best if I open up somewhere else as not to offend. It is not a slight on my pies. It is just common sense.

So I move off to an area who will welcome and enjoy my pies instead of accusing the whole of NY/America/Non Pie eaters of being Anti Pie.

Common sense should be applied. There are plenty of places to build it elsewhere I am sure.

:)
I'd say that if you had purchased the land and believed your pies to be good and available to all and you wanted to regenerate the area which is currently run down then you should be able to build your pie shop and hope that all and sundry would remember how good pies could be and put the sad deaths of previous pie eaters behind them.

Bernieboy Aug 30th 2010 11:18 pm
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 8815699)
Not sure...but they were allowed to build Mecca next to the church in Dundee!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/...9fa64a9397.jpg
:rofl::rofl::thumbsup:

lapin_windstar Aug 30th 2010 11:24 pm
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8815588)
Perhaps New York being the largest concentration of Muslims in the US might have something to do with that?
Yes, exactly - the reason why New Yorkers don't feel the need to shit the bed about a mosque being built is because they already work, rest and play with Mars ba- with Muslims every day.

It's shitkickers from far away that feel the greatest need to get involved in this town planning issue, think they know all about NY real estate and think they know what Teh Muslins "are really like". :thumbdown:

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/q...me/omgonoz.gif

Amazulu Aug 30th 2010 11:30 pm
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
No mosque. They should build some ICBM silos there instead - filled with missiles aimed at Mecca, Teheran, Damascus etc.

Yeehah!

Bernieboy Aug 30th 2010 11:33 pm
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8815748)
No mosque. They should build some ICBM silos there instead - filled with missiles aimed at Mecca, Teheran, Damascus etc.

Yeehah!
Nice of you to join us Mr Bush,now take yer finger away from that red button,there's a good phycho.

elfman Aug 31st 2010 12:15 am
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8815439)
They should start building it right after the first Christian church in Mecca is completed.
so if they won't raise their society to the same level as ours we should lower ours down to theirs.

moneypenny20 Aug 31st 2010 12:18 am
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 8815699)
Not sure...but they were allowed to build Mecca next to the church in Dundee!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/...9fa64a9397.jpg
Do the bingo balls come flying out of those tube things? Could be fun :lol:

DeadVim Aug 31st 2010 12:27 am
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
I'd find another KFC outlet more offensive.

fish.01 Aug 31st 2010 12:30 am
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
I think it is giving in to extremists (both Muslim and Christian) to disallow the mosque. They want hatred and fear to rule. The US is a better country than that. Banning it would probably make the terrorists happy and moderate Muslims afraid.

paulry Aug 31st 2010 12:31 am
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by elfman (Post 8815839)
so if they won't raise their society to the same level as ours we should lower ours down to theirs.
To be fair it should be a matter of give and take, mutual respect. As the situation is now the west is seen as a soft touch and we're being manipulated, despised and over-run because of it. Approvals for planning permission to build mosques in the western/traditionally christian countries should be linked to the same for churches in the eastern/traditionally muslim world. For example, in Malaysia consent to build new churches is rarely given.

elfman Aug 31st 2010 12:32 am
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 8815880)
I think it is giving in to extremists (both Muslim and Christian) to disallow the mosque. They want hatred and fear to rule. The US is a better country than that. Banning it would probably make the terrorists happy and moderate Muslims afraid.
Exactly: How many times after 9-11 were we told "they hate us for our freedoms"? Well it appears some people's answer to that is to do away with some of these freedoms.

MartinLuther Aug 31st 2010 12:42 am
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
I wonder how much the hot dog pitch outside would be worth? :sneaky:

fish.01 Aug 31st 2010 12:43 am
Re: Talk of Mosque 2 blocks away from Ground Zero
 
Originally Posted by paulry (Post 8815883)
To be fair it should be a matter of give and take, mutual respect. As the situation is now the west is seen as a soft touch and we're being manipulated, despised and over-run because of it. Approvals for planning permission to build mosques in the western/traditionally christian countries should be linked to the same for churches in the eastern/traditionally muslim world. For example, in Malaysia consent to build new churches is rarely given.
Western democracies hold themselves up as bastions of freedom and decency. That's why I think they are great. They should support actions that encourage the moderates of countries like Malaysia to become more democratic rather than allow the extremists to point at the discrimination of western democracies to help them gain the upper hand.


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