Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
#46
Re: Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
If Australia was “in denial” as a small number of people with large megaphones are given to repeating, perhaps the accusers should disclose specific instances of the genre. Are minorities routinely lynched? Routinely treated differently in access to education, health care, housing? Routinely subject to mob attacks? Routinely confined to ghettoes?
And if something bad does happen (e.g., Cronulla) what is the community response?
And if something bad does happen (e.g., Cronulla) what is the community response?
#47
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Re: Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
People don't have to by 'lynched' or experience the other things you listed to be a victim of racism.
#48
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But what we are discussing is racism prevailing in Oz or not.
Dont think there are so many countries have civil wars Somalia/Sudan/Nigeria/DR Congo/Rwanda etc.. so will you compare Oz with those countries
I agree little amount of hate/prejudice will be every where in society towards others community but when it exceeds normal level its leads to worst cases
I travelled and worked good number of countries but till now haven't faced any issues and moreover I didn't practice as well and I do like Oz will give me the same experience
Last edited by helloshivahere; Jan 20th 2010 at 6:01 am.
#49
Re: Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
I agree Oz is ranked top in UN index and many more and I do agree India have so many regioanl and caste issues. It might take good number of years to get rid off
But what we are discussing is racism prevaling in Oz or not.
Dont think there are so mnay countries have civil wars somalia/sudan/Nigeria/DR Congo/Rwanda etc.. so will you compare Oz with those countries
I agree little amount of hate/prejudice will be every where in society towards others community because but when it exceeeds normal level its leads to worst case like civil wars/genocide etc..
I travelled and worked good number of countries but till now haven't faced any issues and moreover I didnt practice as well and I do like Oz will give me the same experience
But what we are discussing is racism prevaling in Oz or not.
Dont think there are so mnay countries have civil wars somalia/sudan/Nigeria/DR Congo/Rwanda etc.. so will you compare Oz with those countries
I agree little amount of hate/prejudice will be every where in society towards others community because but when it exceeeds normal level its leads to worst case like civil wars/genocide etc..
I travelled and worked good number of countries but till now haven't faced any issues and moreover I didnt practice as well and I do like Oz will give me the same experience
i answerd the following question
IF its such a racist country then why are Indians the largest or second largest immigrant group
and my answer was
Because it’s better than India which like it or not is still predominantly a third world country
where do sudan etc come in to it??
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Re: Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
8 generations through every strand you can go back? Once you get to the 8th generation you are talking about being able to account for 500 different direct relations that contribute to your bloodline going back over 200 years. That's impressive! I can go back to the 1500s but only down one strand
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Re: Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
Guilty, Your Honour. That's like the canard guns don't kill people, people do.
Another example maybe?
#54
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Proposed only, sure. But how did it ever get aired as a proposal?????!!!!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...19/1956143.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...19/1956143.htm
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Re: Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
Break down the "Offenders" heritage.
Yeah thought so,can't mention Somalian,Pacific Islanders etc attacking Indians.
Thats rascist.
So,by the way,these sexual assualts against women-please break down the origin of the offenders.
Reckon its Rascist White Aussies...........
Get your facts right before you get all smug.
Yeah thought so,can't mention Somalian,Pacific Islanders etc attacking Indians.
Thats rascist.
So,by the way,these sexual assualts against women-please break down the origin of the offenders.
Reckon its Rascist White Aussies...........
Get your facts right before you get all smug.
#56
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Re: Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
Break down the "Offenders" heritage.
Yeah thought so,can't mention Somalian,Pacific Islanders etc attacking Indians.
Thats rascist.
So,by the way,these sexual assualts against women-please break down the origin of the offenders.
Reckon its Rascist White Aussies...........
Get your facts right before you get all smug.
Yeah thought so,can't mention Somalian,Pacific Islanders etc attacking Indians.
Thats rascist.
So,by the way,these sexual assualts against women-please break down the origin of the offenders.
Reckon its Rascist White Aussies...........
Get your facts right before you get all smug.
Please come back when you have grasped the concept of how to structure a sentence.
#57
Re: Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
The poster who posed the thought about no grog on Aboriginal settlements being racist. This is not correct the elders decide that they do not want grog brought in because of the trouble it causes. My family lived in the Kimberly for many years and know all about the problems with grog.
I have said it before the things people call racism today are not racist they are discriminatory, racism is when you cannot sit on the a seat, have a special area on the bus to sit, cannot access certain shops, do not go in the same part of the hospital, go to separate schools, yes I know about it I spent some of my formative years living with Apartheid.
Discrimination works all ways. You cannot make people like people whoever they are. All that can be done is for us to not discriminate against difference. This means everyone whatever race they are.
I have said it before the things people call racism today are not racist they are discriminatory, racism is when you cannot sit on the a seat, have a special area on the bus to sit, cannot access certain shops, do not go in the same part of the hospital, go to separate schools, yes I know about it I spent some of my formative years living with Apartheid.
Discrimination works all ways. You cannot make people like people whoever they are. All that can be done is for us to not discriminate against difference. This means everyone whatever race they are.
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Re: Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
Proposed only, sure. But how did it ever get aired as a proposal?????!!!!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...19/1956143.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...19/1956143.htm
The lofty ideals of discrimination, free speech etc., as concepts can cause more harm than good when the principles are applied without qualification rather than on their merits. Hence the rejection of an Australian Bill or Rights at a (somewhat) recent referendum.
#59
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It would be nice to see Tom Calma take a bit more responsibility when it comes to the safety of the aboriginal women and children he should be representing, not to mention the long term health of the people he professes to lobby for.
The lofty ideals of discrimination, free speech etc., as concepts can cause more harm than good when the principles are applied without qualification rather than on their merits. Hence the rejection of an Australian Bill or Rights at a (somewhat) recent referendum.
The lofty ideals of discrimination, free speech etc., as concepts can cause more harm than good when the principles are applied without qualification rather than on their merits. Hence the rejection of an Australian Bill or Rights at a (somewhat) recent referendum.
#60
Re: Sick of everyone calling Australia racist.
India is a shithole,i would rather live in Perth,but only just.