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Yes I am. Does that mean I have to agree with or am responsible for everything Bush and his cronies did?

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No one's ever done anything about Mugabe and his henchmen murdering all and sundry, they're not going to do anything about Libya. However evil these leaders are, it's no one else's business regardless of how the rest of the world feel about the atrocities. The only people who can do something are those that live there. Everyone moans when the US throw their weight about towards a country because they don't like the way they do things (Bay of Pigs, Granada etc and then the same people moan that no one does anything in places like Libya.

You either have certain countries throwing their weight around or you don't, you can't pick and chose.

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But they do, usually based on if said country has Oil. Is Mugabe better or worse than Saddam was?

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Just as bad imo. And that's my point about picking and choosing. The US do make that choice but that doesn't make it right. You either go in and sort out all the countries that have atrocities (and who makes that decision anyway) or you steer clear. As far as I'm concerned, none of us outside the country concerned have the right to do anything more than complain on a public forum.

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Well as the nation of Libya was pretty much made up by the Italians and British, what's the chances of it ripping itself to pieces now?

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I suspect that you've benefited in some way from their policies. That's what I found odd when you railed against "greedy Western bastards" (not a mention of Bush and his cronies - nor even Obama).

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I thought that was obvious from the sentence preceding it; apologies if it was not.

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No it wasn't obvious.

It could have referred to us Westerners who like cheap petrol to fuel our cars and cheap goods manufactured using cheap oil.

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I don't think we will get hard-line mussies in Egypt (army too strong) or Bahrain (a US surrogate and too small) but it is possible in Libya (depending on how the army goes), Tunisia and Yemen.

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Jesus mate, nothing like flogging a dead horse.

(BTW, compared to most on here I'm a tree-hugging hippy and I don't drive. End of conversation.)

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I bet you they are not. Israel has survived for 60 years with 5 or 6 countries around them that have wanted to destroy them . How much worse can it be after these revolutions.... 5 or 6 countries around them the really want to destroy them?

JTL

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I bet they are more concerned than they were. They would be quite happy with stable dictatorships near by. Now they are getting more of an unknown quantity.

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Exactly. This is why the Egyptian army will not allow a fundamentalist mussie government to take over. A muslim army equiped with armoured divisions and a modern airforce on their border would be intolerable to the Israelis and would force them to act pre-emptively - with massive force.

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Just like they are about to do with those 2 hapless Iranian warships.

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Should have a look on the American Boards.... I've seen chats on our London board from US residing posters suggesting there is a possibility of extreme civil unrest or even a civil War.... Tparty/Palin types v Obama AKA the Government... It's not travelling well at all presently the US.
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I Bet the Chinese can stop the religious fanatics.