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freebo Feb 19th 2011 7:53 pm

This is sh*t
 
and the 'civilized' countries of the world shouldn't stand for it...

Libya protests: 140 'massacred' as Gaddafi sends in snipers to crush dissent

renth Feb 19th 2011 8:07 pm

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I agree, it's f**king disgusting. I heard army snipers have been picking off protesters like ducks in a pond.

Apparently the Libyan security forces have refused to fire on fellow Libyans and Gaddafi is using African mercenaries to do his dirty work.

Kooky. Feb 19th 2011 8:15 pm

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Gaddafi has always been mad, bad and extremely dangerous, but all that was forgotten because, would you believe it, he has oil.

Now what are the greedy Western bastards going to do about it?

renth Feb 19th 2011 8:39 pm

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Latest figure over 200 dead in Benghazi, apparently the govt. forces have been using mortars and heavy machine guns on the protesters.

What can "civilized" countries do? probably nothing. Maybe hope that they aren't next?

eddie007 Feb 19th 2011 8:47 pm

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No doubt it'll be swept under the international carpet just as TIananmen and the events of the June the fourth were... In the interests of economic peace....

And countless other atrocities...

Or is this what usa is looking for as a next step in their master plan for world domination????


Wait wAtch and see

Kooky. Feb 19th 2011 8:55 pm

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Oh I'm sure they'll be working out how to capitalise on it, eddie.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Feb 19th 2011 9:23 pm

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Originally Posted by freebo (Post 9188901)
and the 'civilized' countries of the world shouldn't stand for it...

Libya protests: 140 'massacred' as Gaddafi sends in snipers to crush dissent

What would you have the 'civilized' countries of the world do?

mikelincs Feb 19th 2011 9:36 pm

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9189025)
What would you have the 'civilized' countries of the world do?

I agree, little the rest of the world can do except mouth platitudes, which is what has been happening.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Feb 19th 2011 9:44 pm

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 9189043)
I agree, little the rest of the world can do except mouth platitudes, which is what has been happening.

Exactly. There is only one country in the world with the military capability to intervene, and that's the US.

There is absolutely no chance of them attempting that and if they were mad enough to try, they would be accused of doing it 'for the oil'. First few posts in this thread is evidence enough of that.

freebo Feb 19th 2011 9:48 pm

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9189025)
What would you have the 'civilized' countries of the world do?

How about refusing to purchase their oil, stopping their supplies of weapons, technology, etc - if you want to be really extreme try cutting supplies of medicine and yes I know this will hurt the population.

These places need a revolution, and looks like one is coming sooner than I thought.

Over to you, how would you deal with a govt slaughtering its own people?

Turban Explorer Feb 19th 2011 9:56 pm

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9189050)
Exactly. There is only one country in the world with the military capability to intervene, and that's the US.

There is absolutely no chance of them attempting that and if they were mad enough to try, they would be accused of doing it 'for the oil'. First few posts in this thread is evidence enough of that.

The US don't have the money nor the inclination (and how could they win anyway - they can do nothing with Iraq nor Afghanistan). China has the economic sway but what's in it for them? Ultimately, a few hundred dead here and there is sadly irrelevant to any government. The contagion has astonished me... Israel must be bricking it........

iamthecreaturefromuranus Feb 19th 2011 9:57 pm

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Originally Posted by freebo (Post 9189061)
How about refusing to purchase their oil, stopping their supplies of weapons, technology, etc - if you want to be really extreme try cutting supplies of medicine and yes I know this will hurt the population.

These places need a revolution, and looks like one is coming sooner than I thought.

Over to you, how would you deal with a govt slaughtering its own people?

Sanctions... yeah that's really going to work in the short term, given that we imposed sanctions on Libya in the past for over a decade.

How would I deal with it? I wouldn't, outside intervention is a no win situation.
Even if it escalated to the point where thousands were being killed, unless you are prepared to support large scale military intervention, something that would take months to get into position, there is nothing that you can realistically do about it.

elice_in_oz Feb 19th 2011 10:14 pm

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9189075)
Sanctions... yeah that's really going to work in the short term, given that we imposed sanctions on Libya in the past for over a decade.

How would I deal with it? I wouldn't, outside intervention is a no win situation.
Even if it escalated to the point where thousands were being killed, unless you are prepared to support large scale military intervention, something that would take months to get into position, there is nothing that you can realistically do about it.

Sadly, I have to agree with you. History and experience have shown us that unless the people themselves - probably at incredible cost of lives - take matters into their own hands, there is not much the rest of the world can do, except maybe be ready to help them get back on their feet if and when needed.

Oz wannabe1 Feb 19th 2011 10:15 pm

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9189075)
Sanctions... yeah that's really going to work in the short term, given that we imposed sanctions on Libya in the past for over a decade.

How would I deal with it? I wouldn't, outside intervention is a no win situation.
Even if it escalated to the point where thousands were being killed, unless you are prepared to support large scale military intervention, something that would take months to get into position, there is nothing that you can realistically do about it.

To be honest..i say leave them to it. It is their country, their problem. We lost our eldest son in Afghanistan July 2009 and did his loss and the UK's intervention help? Did it sh.te. We have lost more brave boys and still there is no end in sight. We can't leave or the fallen have been lost for nothing. As to new problems, I totally agree, we should stay well clear.

eddie007 Feb 19th 2011 10:36 pm

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My grandad who was in Tripoli for a while during WWll always told anyone who'd listen that a third world war would start there...

Sanctions??? They work against the general population... Starve a starving country of essential medical supplies to top it off...

If certain countries hadn't sold them weapons in the first place would they be i. This situation???:sneaky:


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