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Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 9188919)
I agree, it's f**king disgusting. I heard army snipers have been picking off protesters like ducks in a pond.
Apparently the Libyan security forces have refused to fire on fellow Libyans and Gaddafi is using African mercenaries to do his dirty work. |
Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by Oz wannabe1
(Post 9189101)
To be honest..i say leave them to it. It is their country, their problem. We lost our eldest son in Afghanistan July 2009 and did his loss and the UK's intervention help? Did it sh.te. We have lost more brave boys and still there is no end in sight. We can't leave or the fallen have been lost for nothing. As to new problems, I totally agree, we should stay well clear.
Completely agree that the West should steer well clear |
Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by eddie007
(Post 9189138)
Sanctions??? They work against the general population... Starve a starving country of essential medical supplies to top it off...
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Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 9189527)
Firstly, sorry to read about the loss of your brave son. :(
Completely agree that the West should steer well clear One of the many reasons we want to move to Oz for a resh start. Not to forget...that will never happen, but in honour of his memory, do the things he also wanted to do. It is no secret I have been trying to get to Oz for some time but things have not quite worked out. This time it will...it has to. |
Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by Oz wannabe1
(Post 9189662)
Thanks.
One of the many reasons we want to move to Oz for a resh start. Not to forget...that will never happen, but in honour of his memory, do the things he also wanted to do. It is no secret I have been trying to get to Oz for some time but things have not quite worked out. This time it will...it has to. |
Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by Seasider
(Post 9188929)
Gaddafi has always been mad, bad and extremely dangerous, but all that was forgotten because, would you believe it, he has oil.
Now what are the greedy Western bastards going to do about it? |
Re: This is sh*t
The only external intervention that would have any possibility of success would be Arab forces under a UN flag. However this is unlikely to happen as a lot of the Arab nations are dealing with their own civil rest, are too small, or are led by autocrats who would not want to rock the boat as they might be next.
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Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by Rambi
(Post 9189894)
The only external intervention that would have any possibility of success would be Arab forces under a UN flag. However this is unlikely to happen as a lot of the Arab nations are dealing with their own civil rest, are too small, or are led by autocrats who would not want to rock the boat as they might be next.
There seems to be an assumption that these events are all the people against all parts of government, which is pretty obviously nonsense. Just for arguments sake, lets say that NATO managed to get large scale forces on the ground in Libya. They are then faced by a large demonstration in favour of the the Government, with attacks on anti-government supporters... what would you expect them to do? Wade in on the side of the anti-government people.. or sit back and watch? |
Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9189914)
Just out of interest, and this isn't directed at you in particular but any posters who think 'we' should 'do something'..... 'do something' against who exactly?
There seems to be an assumption that these events are all the people against all parts of government, which is pretty obviously nonsense. Just for arguments sake, lets say that NATO managed to get large scale forces on the ground in Libya. They are then faced by a large demonstration in favour of the the Government, with attacks on anti-government supporters... what would you expect them to do? Wade in on the side of the anti-government people.. or sit back and watch? As well as carrying a high possibility of failure the legitimacy of external intervention is always suspect. |
Re: This is sh*t
I guess one reason why some western governments might get involved is to try and prevent a scenario where tens of thousands of Libyans end up setting sail across the Mediterranean towards Europe. I don't think they will though.
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Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by bcworld
(Post 9189946)
I guess one reason why some western governments might get involved is to try and prevent a scenario where tens of thousands of Libyans end up setting sail across the Mediterranean towards Europe. I don't think they will though.
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Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 9189952)
Italy already has that problem with Tunisians and Libyans WILL start coming. Europe's reaction to this will be interesting.
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Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by bcworld
(Post 9189963)
I wrote that a bit poorly, I meant that the governments wont get involved. I do think the Libyans will start fleeing.
Governments in France, Italy and Spain are about to face some tough decisions about what to do with thousands of migrants from North Africa. Italy already has some serious issues with economic migrants from Africa, breakdown of government in those countries will see a surge in that, potentially in the tens of thousands. |
Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by eddie007
(Post 9188967)
No doubt it'll be swept under the international carpet just as TIananmen and the events of the June the fourth were... In the interests of economic peace....
And countless other atrocities... Or is this what usa is looking for as a next step in their master plan for world domination???? Wait wAtch and see I'm happy that the US are the only world power right now because the alternatives are not pretty. |
Re: This is sh*t
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 9189527)
Firstly, sorry to read about the loss of your brave son. :(
Lets see what the outcomes could be, Status Quo, Islamic Republic, another "Strongman" or full democracy. The last one is the least likely IMO. Not much the west could do, it would end up like Northern Ireland, or Iraq. Troops arriving to protect locals quickly seen as "occupying force" and the enemy. |
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