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Craig1987 Jan 15th 2012 9:50 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 9843921)
Why, scotland didn't earn it, the UK did. Scotland benefited as part of the union (which is why the moans about scotland getting subsidised).

How exactly is oil in Scottish owned territory "earned by the UK"? Stolen more like.


Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 9843921)
I thought the reason for the massive chip on the scottish shoulder was the fact that the English really don't give scotland much thought most of the time? Really, we've been much nicer about you than you deserve, given how every other word out of scotland's collective mouth is "****ing English".

Excuse me, but this thread has been pretty much non stop Scotland bashing. You people make me sick.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 15th 2012 9:53 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by Craig1987 (Post 9843917)
And have you considered that the reason the Scots have a chip on their shoulder is due to the "elitist" attitude that the English have.

Proof of which is pretty much the whole thread. Open your eyes mate. In order to have a chip on ones shoulder, someone has to do something first. And the reason I even mentioned an historic battle was due to some ignoramous. I am proud of my country's history.

I'm from a council estate in Manchester. Not many there with an "elitist attitude" I can tell ya.

Try reading the thread without the tartan blinkers. Much of it is a piss take, between posters who have posted to one another for years. It's not intended as serious comment... but there is a definitive undercurrent from the English posters along the lines of "you've been telling us for years you hate us and you're off. Well just get on and ****ing do it then. You won't be missed"

If that attitude comes as a surprise to some Scots, it really shouldn't.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 15th 2012 9:54 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by Craig1987 (Post 9843931)
How exactly is oil in Scottish owned territory "earned by the UK"? Stolen more like.



Excuse me, but this thread has been pretty much non stop Scotland bashing. You people make me sick.

"Scottish owned territory" Where's that then?

GarryP Jan 15th 2012 9:59 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9843944)
I'm from a council estate in Manchester. Not many there with an "elitist attitude" I can tell ya.

I've often thought that 'elitist' comment comes from the fact that no one can understand a broad scottish accent - so tourists keep asking for it to be repeated in English.

Actually the piss-takes and the rancour is probably a good reason to get this referendum over and done with as soon as possible. The longer it goes on, the more the English are going to think/say "well **** off then".

Its very like a divorce.

bingobob777 Jan 15th 2012 10:02 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9843946)
"Scottish owned territory" Where's that then?

In the event of independence it would go something like this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_boundary

Craig1987 Jan 15th 2012 10:03 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9843944)
I'm from a council estate in Manchester. Not many there with an "elitist attitude" I can tell ya.

Try reading the thread without the tartan blinkers. Much of it is a piss take, between posters who have posted to one another for years. It's not intended as serious comment... but there is a definitive undercurrent from the English posters along the lines of "you've been telling us for years you hate us and you're off. Well just get on and ****ing do it then. You won't be missed"

If that attitude comes as a surprise to some Scots, it really shouldn't.

Firstly, I would like to state that I have not made stated where I stand on the independence issue. Secondly, I would like to state that the SNP does not speak for everyone in Scotland. Have you considered that fact? That would be like someone calling the English racist due to the drivel spouted by the BNP.

bingobob777 Jan 15th 2012 10:05 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 9843739)
It's kind of funny. The point has been made that up until a few years ago Salmond was making the point that Scotland could do as well as its neighbours, Ireland and Iceland. Somehow the touchstones of comparison changed....


Though the inventor has lived in the US since birth, he had a mother that once, in 1972 bought a tin of shortbread with a tartan pattern on it (though made in Manchester) - HE'S A SCOT !!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zaJPOVGlEPs

Yep, hence the reason I excluded Ireland and Iceland from the list :lol:

Both still ranked higher than the UK though, in fact Iceland seems to be recovering rather well from the GFC, maybe other countries should take their stance and just say a big f**k you to the banks instead of grinding their country further into poverty.

bingobob777 Jan 15th 2012 10:06 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9843775)
They will still be bad at football.


iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 15th 2012 10:12 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 9843958)
I've often thought that 'elitist' comment comes from the fact that no one can understand a broad scottish accent - so tourists keep asking for it to be repeated in English.

Actually the piss-takes and the rancour is probably a good reason to get this referendum over and done with as soon as possible. The longer it goes on, the more the English are going to think/say "well **** off then".

Its very like a divorce.

Yes indeed it is.

Broad Shoulders Jan 15th 2012 10:13 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by bingobob777 (Post 9843976)

there you go, constantly referring to battles from donkey's years ago. How many have been lost since then?

Craig1987 Jan 15th 2012 10:14 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 9843992)
there you go, constantly referring to battles from donkey's years ago. How many have been lost since then?

Who is "constantly referring to battles from donkey's years ago"? I didn't post that video. As a matter of fact, I couldn't give a **** about football. Regardless of whose playing.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 15th 2012 10:16 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by bingobob777 (Post 9843966)
In the event of independence it would go something like this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_boundary

...and prior to 'independence', which is when Craigy boy was talking about?

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 15th 2012 10:18 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by Craig1987 (Post 9843969)
Firstly, I would like to state that I have not made stated where I stand on the independence issue. Secondly, I would like to state that the SNP does not speak for everyone in Scotland. Have you considered that fact? That would be like someone calling the English racist due to the drivel spouted by the BNP.

Have I bollocks. What do you think this is? The Oxford Debating Society?

Comparing the SNP to the BNP is interesting though. What percentage of Scots recently voted for the SNP?

Craig1987 Jan 15th 2012 10:21 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 9844007)
Have I bollocks. What do you think this is? The Oxford Debating Society?

Comparing the SNP to the BNP is interesting though. What percentage of Scots recently voted for the SNP?

I didn't.

Broad Shoulders Jan 15th 2012 10:22 am

Re: Scottish Independence
 

Originally Posted by Craig1987 (Post 9843999)
Who is "constantly referring to battles from donkey's years ago"? I didn't post that video. As a matter of fact, I couldn't give a **** about football. Regardless of whose playing.

Chill out mate! It's a bit of fun! You referred earlier to a battle won a very long time ago and now Bingo is referring to a football match won in 1967.

Someone made a very good point earlier that the most ardent and true blue Scots all seem to live outside of Scotland. I must say that since living in Aus I have found that to be very very true.

I have for many years, while living here and in the UK put up with the usual "bloody English" and other banter and just shrugged it off as such. Now, with the "threats" of independence it seems the banter is coming across as genuine dislike. As Iam put it, maybe the English are now just sick of hearing it all the time and the Scots on here who seem to be taking offense to this are seeing this as hatred. It's not, it's years of fatigue!


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