Proud not to be

I did say a solution was not an easy topic. Like dealing with drugs and drug addictions. But the conversation has progressed since you and I posted. Seems to be focussing on solutions, which is a good thing.

You know that for a fact do you? I'm sure many people feel that way, but hopefully not everyone
There could also be friends and family of those suspected or convicted of paedophilia, which also makes some posts disturbing.

By proxy or otherwise I would heartily condone the death penalty for this filth, I actually don't need to have any other ideas. I haven't changed my view from the opening post, and I won't be doing so, nor did I ever say I was open to other ideas.

We know that these animals will be a danger to kids their whole lives, yet we still as a society want to help them, understand them, cure them. They choose to live their perverted existence outside the law, yet the law still protects them.

I'm very much at ease with my view on this subject, not so some of the other views I've seen on here.

Believe it or not many of them do, often due to suffering from other mental conditions, such as depression. While being treated for one thing, others often come to light.

If there are friends or family that covered for a paedophile, or stood by them after a conviction then why would their feelings concern me?

I'm not apologising for the way I feel about the subject, this is one subject that should enrage us all, clearly not, which leaves me shaking my head in disbelief

Hang on, other than a couple of questionable posts on here but I think it's fair to say that most people are against this type of crime.

I just cannot understand anyones blood not boiling with this subject, we should still find some things completely unacceptable, we should still believe that some things are worthy of the harshest punishment possible, but we dont it seems.

You look elsewhere on this board and you've got people getting in a right old mess when someone says they're against gay marriage say, or that they're religious, yet I'm being told to calm down because I won't budge my view on paedophiles.

But people are outraged by this happening. You haven't suggested anything to stop it from happening. You haven't even suggested anything that is a fair punishment. Death isn't a solution. That's why logic needs to be applied. Otherwise, we're simply accepting that there is a disease we can't cure and just have to cut out the bad bits when we see them.

A fair punishment for raping a child? I think the punishment I suggested was perfectly fair. Why isn't death a solution? Because we're civilized??

What's your logical solution then Nigel, do we tag the paedo's and every kid in the country? Or do we placate them in the hope that others don't kill the children? No-one has come up with a viable alternative to a bullet

Don't bother answering for my benifit, I'm off

How about 18YO's that have the maturity of a 14YO ?

I would be inclined to agree with you some of the way... say on children under 8. After that there are varying levels... 13 yo old boys and abnormally mature 9 YO girls etc etc.

Or say a 40 yo with a 15, 11 month and 30 day girl gets the death penalty, whereas the same 40 yo 3 days later lives ?

Does RH deserve to be jailed for what he has done? - yes
Does he deserve to be executed? - no

You could always move to Saudi Arabia ..... their laws and punishments may be more to your liking.

Well, I'll reply anyway. I have no idea how we can improve on what we currently do. Yes, we are civilised. Taking a life as a resolution to crime is the opposite of that, in my opinion.

I think it's fair to say that not all child molestation is the same. By that I mean an18 year old being convicted of having sex with his girlfriend a day before her 16th birthday. Would you see the death penalty a fair punishment? A single bullet solution to a complex problem does not help anyone. We'd have executions by the bus load.

I think one thing we need to investigate is how we could use technology to our advantage. I hate the idea of being suspicious of others because of what a minority might do. But, perhaps our kids need wearable devices, controlled by parents, to monitor their activities. This would work for younger kids and not so much for teenagers. But, it would be a start. It would introduce concerns around privacy for others and so probably needs to be thought out better than how I'm describing it.

I think it would be more beneficial to society, if.

A: He paid compensation to all his victims and lost every cent he had

B: He become 'owned' by the state and was forced to apologise and give lectures on why and where and how he perpetrated these acts.

C: Was continualy kept in the public eye as a shameful example of exactly what sexual abuse really is and that no one is beyond the law.


Jailing is a bit like sweeping under the carpet I think, just teaches people not to get caught. Education is the key, especially aimed at those people around the perpetrators that have an inkling of what is going on.