Retitled: England - riots
Aug 7th 2011 | 1:31 am
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once bitten, twice over my dead body 
Anyway back on topic...... as someone with mates in north London I just find it alarming....I'm sure lots of you feel the same, whatever the rights and wrongs your thoughts instantly turn to the basics of How close to Xxxx is it?
Aug 7th 2011 | 1:32 am
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I think Chris and Rajj are right. What we need are more moderate moderators who don't skew things to show the UK in a bad light 
Aug 7th 2011 | 1:36 am
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Aug 7th 2011 | 1:38 am
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Aug 7th 2011 | 1:41 am
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Aug 7th 2011 | 1:49 am
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Aug 7th 2011 | 1:56 am
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Aug 7th 2011 | 2:04 am
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Aug 7th 2011 | 2:30 am
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Aug 7th 2011 | 2:40 am
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Re: Those Nasty Met Coppers are at it again.
Amazing how the coppers always end up on the back foot having to apologize for doing a thankless job. From what I can work out they shot a criminal in the course of their duty. As police forces go, the British police would have to be one of the least violent forces in the world. I think that the fault for the rioting lies with the people living in that part of London, not the police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrDgln6NGPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrDgln6NGPc
Aug 7th 2011 | 3:53 am
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It might turn out that he was a bad boy yardie who was on the way to shoot someone else in a taxi and shot first at the police. However, given its the Met, you have to assume their story isn't all that truthful.
The 'other side' is saying stuff like:
probably also not entirely truthful either.
However the reality is probably going to end up somewhere in between with the police going in, guns blazing, shooting up a probably guilty man, then overacting when people start turning up asking questions, and making things worse because of their arse-covering attitude. That seems to be the common refrain Met policing.
Maybe if those officers guilty of murder were arrested and tried properly, people might be more likely to give the 'justice' system a chance. However instances like Ian Tomlinson gives nobody confidence in the system, and hence creates this type of event in consequence.
The 'other side' is saying stuff like:
probably also not entirely truthful either.
However the reality is probably going to end up somewhere in between with the police going in, guns blazing, shooting up a probably guilty man, then overacting when people start turning up asking questions, and making things worse because of their arse-covering attitude. That seems to be the common refrain Met policing.
Maybe if those officers guilty of murder were arrested and tried properly, people might be more likely to give the 'justice' system a chance. However instances like Ian Tomlinson gives nobody confidence in the system, and hence creates this type of event in consequence.
Of course mistakes are made and on occasion officers may act outside of the law and should be dealt with accordingly. However, you have to remember the police are those that are tasked with dealing with societies violent element, that usually necessitates the use of force.
When force of any level is used, it is possible that serious injuries can occur and sometimes do. It's unrealistic to expect otherwise
Aug 7th 2011 | 6:06 am
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Aug 7th 2011 | 8:37 am
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My sister was a copper, and she was only allowed to defend herself using standard techniques- couldn't apply any of her Tai Kwan Do training, so she got assaulted and couldn't drop the little s**t. Caused a brain injury and she retired from the force with PTSS.
Her job was a thankless one where she was spat at, sworn at and punched/kicked, and the aggressors got away with it with a caution or at worst an asbo, and were on the streets the next day to continue in their thuggish ways.
This was in a rural town. The pressure that the police are under is enormous, as is the paperwork they then have to do. Do you wonder why they tend to react with riot shields? They know that rent-a -mob are out to get them.
Her job was a thankless one where she was spat at, sworn at and punched/kicked, and the aggressors got away with it with a caution or at worst an asbo, and were on the streets the next day to continue in their thuggish ways.
This was in a rural town. The pressure that the police are under is enormous, as is the paperwork they then have to do. Do you wonder why they tend to react with riot shields? They know that rent-a -mob are out to get them.
Aug 7th 2011 | 9:53 am
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