its even sadder that racism is cited once again as opposed to coppers trying to do their job. I wouldn't be a cop in UK for all the gold in SA

I thought the Telegraph and Times had to be discounted as they're right-wing rags? The Telegraph is carrying the same quote as in most papers.

"A family friend of Mr Duggan, who gave her name only as Nikki, 53, said the man's friends and relatives had organised the protest because "something has to be done" and the marchers wanted "justice for the family."
"They're making their presence known because people are not happy," she added. "This guy was not violent. Yes, he was involved in things but he was not an aggressive person. He had never hurt anyone."

yeah, right... and I suppose the gun he was carrying was a Nerf Gun?

We just had some friends over (both cops) and believe me I wouldn't be a cop ANYWHERE.

It might turn out that he was a bad boy yardie who was on the way to shoot someone else in a taxi and shot first at the police. However, given its the Met, you have to assume their story isn't all that truthful.

The 'other side' is saying stuff like:
probably also not entirely truthful either.

However the reality is probably going to end up somewhere in between with the police going in, guns blazing, shooting up a probably guilty man, then overacting when people start turning up asking questions, and making things worse because of their arse-covering attitude. That seems to be the common refrain Met policing.

Maybe if those officers guilty of murder were arrested and tried properly, people might be more likely to give the 'justice' system a chance. However instances like Ian Tomlinson gives nobody confidence in the system, and hence creates this type of event in consequence.

Times is Murdoch tripe. We will find out the truth whatever the events were. The met has proved to be full of crap in the past. I look forward to the full story.

It is a tough job and I have no idea what I would do if faced with a potentially armed suspect.

a few of us were watching a UK cop programe and mentioned no one has any respect for the UK cops anymore. The cops shit themselves in case the PC brigade fine them or make a mountain out of a molehill for doing their job. It's not worth the trouble doing their job or the right thing anymore.

My Aussie copper mates at least feel comfortable arresting someone for doing something wrong and generally people daren't take the piss cos they'd be arrested and banged up for it

The UK is too PC these days and the chickens have come home to roost

Must leave UK things are getting worse ........ looting pound shops !!!

Well things must be very different where you are, one of our mates has transferred to the bush because things were so bad, another today told us he had transferred to the water Police as it was safer. Cops here get abused and assaulted daily.
I think some just assume things are so much worse there or so much better here, it seems to go hand in hand with migrating which makes sense.

yep and I bet they bang the abusers up whereas in the UK cops have to take the softly softly approach for fear of upsetting anyone....

Well not from what I understand.

Source?

Probably a Murdoch owned rag.

Who needs a source?

Perception is the reality. Everybody 'knows' that every time a predominately white police force arrests anybody who isn't white then its because they are 'institutionally racist'. Surely that goes without saying these days?