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Old Jun 14th 2011, 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Amazulu's list of engineering agents in Perth:
Technical Resources
Swan Recruitment
TAD
Execom

Like London, Perth only has a few good agencies, the rest are not worth bothering with IMO
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Originally Posted by Turban Explorer
The agents I've dealt with are all Aussie chicks called Caitlin, Tayla, Shanya etc... Box tickers - unless you have experience in the exact role they pretend to advertising you ain't getting past the Barkin's vinyl slacks...

Might give the commodities/broking jobs agency idea a bit of thought depending on the regulations required to do so...
Just lie about the experience. Duckhead recruiters cant tell. anyway, the experience requirements are crap. A year after Sharepoint was released one recruiter advertised for someone with 5+ years Sharepoint experience.

The idea of a specialist recruiter (or headhunter) for brokers might be well worth thinking through. Big dollars - you only need to place a couple a year to do well.
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Old Jun 14th 2011, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Turban Explorer
No. I can't get straight PR.
Why not, if you don't mind me asking?

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Old Jun 14th 2011, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Turban Explorer
The agents I've dealt with are all Aussie chicks called Caitlin, Tayla, Shanya etc... Box tickers - unless you have experience in the exact role they pretend to advertising you ain't getting past the Barkin's vinyl slacks...
The Aussie recruitment industry is about 80% women as opposed to the UK which is about 90% men.

Might give the commodities/broking jobs agency idea a bit of thought depending on the regulations required to do so...
Only need licences etc. if you are placing people into healthcare/medical (that I can think of off the top of my head). Other than that, there is no qualifications required and the cost of entry is quite low.

Good money to be made recruiting banking and finance guys. Especially for yourself. All you would need is 2 - 3 placements a month and you could be raking in $60K+, and this can be done from a home office.

I used to work with a few commods traders turned recruiters and they were making placement fees of c$70K per placement, with a lot of the work retained.
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Old Jun 14th 2011, 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Turban Explorer
I've worked in commodity trading in Sydney and had a job up in Cairns for an Indigenous organisation (although I walked out of the 2nd so wouldn't put it on my CV). Canberra? I can't work in government jobs as a temp resident - I think the regional capitals are Adelaide, Hobart, Darwin.
If Adelaide, Hobart and Darwin are regional cities, surely Perth must be too?
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Originally Posted by slapphead_otool
A year after Sharepoint was released one recruiter advertised for someone with 5+ years Sharepoint experience.
They probably copied HR's job description. Recruiters get the blame for a lot of HR stuff ups.

The idea of a specialist recruiter (or headhunter) for brokers might be well worth thinking through. Big dollars - you only need to place a couple a year to do well.
Why do you think I do it?
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Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
I do dislike the London Wideboys.
"Oi Maaate, gotta job for yer, its all gotta go, its all gotta go, great gig as a spunger at Slapdash software"

"but I'm not a spunger, and I don't know anything about Slapdash, and its Slapdash Technologies, not Slapdash Software"

"Not a problem me old mate, you will be ok. Pick it up as you go along ok?"
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Originally Posted by HelenTD
If Adelaide, Hobart and Darwin are regional cities, surely Perth must be too?
For immigration purposes it is not
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I thought you'd decided to jack it all in here in Aus TE.
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Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII
They probably copied HR's job description. Recruiters get the blame for a lot of HR stuff ups.



Why do you think I do it?
I think it was a general statement that you had to have 5+ years experience...... No matter what job.
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Old Jun 14th 2011, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
For immigration purposes it is not
Are we talking about the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme or something else?
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It's where failed estate agents go.
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I find this thread interesting from both sides of the fence.

In past life (prior to children) I worked for a large recruiter in UK. Permanent office jobs, not high end head hunter stuff but good bread and butter stuff.

I enjoyed my job and I think a did the right thing by both my clients and my applicants. I used to spend a lot of time training school leavers to have realistic expectations and open attitudes.

Here I recruit on average once every 6 weeks for backpackers to carry out seasonal work on our farm. I can sympathise with the knock backs but in all seriousness, we would get about 35+ applicants for each job, unless I require tractor driving experience, then it's around 20 ish per job. I can only presume many jobs are similarly over subscribed.

I look through experience, then how people with work within the team (this is perhaps more important here as workers live and work on site) and then shortlist from there. This brings it down to about 4 or 5 people. From there I speak to each one and look into longevity and gutt feel.

This may sound like a lengthly process - it is and most amazing bit .... it's for $16.50/hr job.

What frustrates me most is that a number of the backpackers we've had we would have loved to offer permanent jobs to but as "unskilled" Australia doesn't want them and yet we can't find Australian equivalents.

Yet TE has a visa for a job/area but can't find the job. Why and how do their policies work?
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Originally Posted by HelenTD
Are we talking about the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme or something else?
yes
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Why not, if you don't mind me asking?

I'm an ex-sparky from little old Benoni and I got it
I didn't have enough points and after so much unemployment certainly don't have now. I think things have changed since you did it?
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