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Ongoing BBC reporting here

Paris attacks updates - BBC News

Here's the latest we have on the attacks in Paris:

Dozens of people are dead after multiple shootings in the French capital
Between 60 and 100 people are reportedly being held hostage at the Bataclan arts centre
Three explosions were reported outside a bar near the Stade de France, where France were playing Germany in a football match
French President Francois Hollande has declared a state of emergency and closed the country's borders
Paris authorities have asked people to stay indoors

Police have told the AFP news agency that at least 15 people were killed at the Bataclan concert hall in central Paris

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Awful. What is the World coming to? :(

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Terrible and sad

What a f**king mess

Whether it likes it or not, the west is being bitch slapped out of the haze it's been living in for decades

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From the BBC

Three dead in Stade de France blast'

Three people have died in a blast at the Stade de France, the president of the French Football Federation Noël Le Graët has said, quoted by L'Equipe.

A number of others were injured in the explosion at one of the entrances to the stadium, Le Graët said

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140 dead now

Time for the French to get some payback

An eye for an eye

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The big question, how to you fight a religion.

As much as Islam should be banned in the west, spoilt for many by a few rotton apples, that would just breed further radicals.

As you suggest, closed borders would be a start. Unfortunately it really has to be all about building walls and dividing.

Its a real shame the world had come to this.

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Sounds like France are closing their borders.

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The French should target something like ISIS HQ in Raqqa and flatten it - symbolic too

Buy a fleet of drones armed with Hellfire and start a whole shedload of killing

West and East are going to start separating

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Meanwhile on the human side of it....many of us have friends, family in Paris. I have a lovely friend there who I met in Brisbane when she was backpacking. She loves music and goes to a lot of concerts......
It was a loooong couple of hours before I knew she was safe.

RIP those who were not so lucky.

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Yes RIP to those who have been so unfortunate.

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158 at the last count. My daughter's French exchange student friends are very shocked.

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Vive La France

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The problem here is that many of the french far right will want to lash out at the muslim population (of which there are 2.1m in france). Which plays directly into the hands of the people who planned and carried out this attack.

France will need a displacement activity if there's not to be bloody warfare on the streets - and it's likely to be bloody warfare in syria. Which in turn means more syrian refugees who less will want to take now.

It's also likely that the french will be less forgiving of religious zealots in general.

Finding a path that doesn't make it worse is going to be difficult, and I'm not feeling that the "closed borders" is a positive sign.

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It seems the early reports of trouble at the France Germany football match are false, there were explosions near the stadium, but they were agt the Bataclan concert, the Stade wasn't involved, although it was close to the Bataclan. The whole of the BBC news this morning has been reports from Paris and around the world about the atrocity, and I really amazed that Cameron hasn't been at the forefront with at least a televised statement, instead he has limited himself to a written statement given out to the media.

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Paris attacks: We are all at war with Islamic State now. We must not back down - Telegraph

Yes you are Con, yes you are

Time to harden your hearts, stiffen your resolve, seal your borders, bring on the killing

You punch me in the face, I hit you with a sledgehammer

A body for an eye

Vasbyt

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Rant of a bloodthirtsty madman....

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My FIL is in Paris. Only just heard from him this morning. Also safe.

So many will have had much worse news.

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Glad he is ok

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Turn on the BBC right now. You will see his lengthy speech.

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There he is! BE's resident terrorist 'it's not their fault' apologist

Mongy, mongy, mongy

Let's just ignore it then

No problems, nothing to worry about, life's sweeeeet

Time to forgive and forget and remember that the west is ALWAYS to blame

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Yeah yeah, get the pitchfork out.. that'll sort it. just like all the retaliatory wars over the lasst 15 years has improved things. LETS BOMB SYRIA AND IRAN eh? thats your next move eh?

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The only reason I pop over onto BE is to read your loon political rants and to drag such threads into the gutter where they belong. You use BE to spread your version of hate. So feel privileged .... YOU are BE to me.:lol:

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The rants from the looney right never actually come up with sensible suggestions about what could be done. Internment ? Deportation ? Re-instatement of the White Australia Policy ? Make all citizens subscribe to the 39 Articles ?
Come one, tell us what you would do.

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You first;)What absolutely blows me away is that people like yourself seem to have more of an issue with people who are visibly outraged about this, and direct their anger at the perpetrators than you do at the perpetrators themselves. This was a cowardly act by backwards ****heads who want the rest of the world to join them in the dark ages. You don't organise something like this without a support network, and quite a substantial one, but these will be mostly 'innocent Muslims'The right wing have outlined exactly what they want done, stop the unfettered migration, assimilate or bugger off etc etc, and it WILL happen eventually, if the situation doesn't change. So what are the left doing to make the right wing solution less appealing to the masses????? Nothing, that's what.

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In the real world going forward, You have failed to stop people like me from coming "Here" and you can rest assure I would never ******* assimilate with the likes of zulu, nor would I bugger off and what pisses you off is that there is NOTHING you can do about it. haha. Plus "WE" are gaining more and more influence and you cannot stop that either.
While the right wing have been saying that shite over the last 13 years i've been in melbourne, "WE" have increased in numbers and influence so they can bleat all they want but it will not stop 'us'.

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PS I enjoyed my last glass of Whiskey :-)

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Whilst I'd never agree with Amazulu, you have to understand where that attitude will lead. You cannot come to country with a particular culture, ignore it and keep your previous culture, and then rub it in the face of those who are natives of the country.

You do that, you get race war on the streets and dead bodies in the gutter.

Like it or not coming to a country means assimilating to the culture of that country mainly - being part of it. Trying to take the money, the standard of living, and reject the rest, isn't on. It's not viable long term - which is where I think the talk of multiculturalism is daft. It holds out the idea that you can do the above, and it's neither viable in the long term, nor respectful of why you should be immigrating in the first place.

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I get the feeling i'd happily assimilate with the likes of you and most normal people.. NOT Zulu as he has form as is proud of his past "killing of Blacks" days.... I have a problem with right wing nutters (with form going back decades) going...kill kill kill 'assimilate of bugger off' X3 geert is a good decent guy x 3 etc. Zulu is literally using BE to spread division. If that's the benchmark being set, then you can forget about assimilation and people living in harmony.... who do you really believe is wanting to live in a successful, 'multicultural', viable, non ignorant, pleasant society ...me or zulu??

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You may have noticed that I block amazulu. It follows the last time geert wilders was barking at these shores and amazulu was adamantly defending him - even though it was very obvious that he was a racist. I've never quite worked out if 'zulu does it because he's trolling, or because his SA background means he actually is that racist - but either way, he's not worth the time.

Frankly, amazulu is one of those that needs to assimilate; to understand the racist culture and confrontational mindset that he came from is not something he can import here. He needs to turn that finger around and point it at himself.

See, thing is, I can understand why 'zulu has that cultural bias. You can't visit SA and not see the siege mentality, the 'us and them', and the inherent guilt based dissonance that has to be resolved somehow. But part of the point of coming to somewhere like Australia is to get away from that, to put it away, and he can't.

Same thing with religion, and islam in particular. Part of the point of coming to somewhere like Australia rather than staying in, say, UAE, is to escape the perversive, destructive, stench of islam and what it does to a society. Religion needs to be like fishing, something you do, as a hobby, not as an all consuming lifestyle. You come here to get away from it; because if you WANT and NEED it to be your entire life, then you are better off in a country where that will be accepted. It's never going to work here, nor should it.

Think of it as Australian culture to be the mean, and multiculturalism to be the standard deviation. You need to make sure as an immigrant you sit within 1 SD of the mean, and assimilate to the degree that that is the case. If you won't or can't, they you aren't going to be an 'Australian', and it'll be a struggle for you every day.

That's how societies work.

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Not sure about the pitchfork - pretty useless as a weapon IMO. Now a Glock 18, that would be sweeeeet

Serious question rajji boy, what's your solution to this shit? My solution is to seal the borders right now, immediately detain all known extremists and to start killing more assholes in Syria and Iraq (don't know why you want to attack Iran?). So what's your solution? Surely you must have one? I'd be interested to know

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Good way of articulating it for me as I cannot find anything you said that i would not agree with 100%.
Actually despite what I may have said earlier (directed at the neo nutters) I have (generally speaking) no problem in Australia having one dominant culture and assimilation goal towards it (for togetherness which is crucial) as long as its heavily influenced by all the good that other cultures bring.
You're kinda spoiling my session here on BE...I only came on to have a go at Zulu's views :-).
Over and Out

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Shit, you've got a hard on for me don't you rajji boy :p

Glad I can be of assistance

I actually feel a bit sorry for you. So consumed by hatred, intolerance and loathing. I've never understood that way of thinking - pretty sad really. Just be careful as that shit will eat you up

Chill

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You should look up on the history and origins of the Zulu nation - it makes for interesting reading

Fit in of f**k off - an interesting statement

I don't know or care what your background is but judging by your username, I reckon that you're British Indian? Indians have, by and large, integrated well into the west and are now a major asset to our culture and way of life. I reckon you've assimilated and integrated pretty well too - you've certainly taken the champagne socialist, leftie, PC viewpoint that so hurts our society (that's democracy for you!), but that's cool. Do whatever floats your boat. But why then don't you want large swathes of the muslim population to integrate and assimilate? To do the very thing that you've done? Until they do integrate, things like Paris are going to get worse - and life will get worse for them

Do try and open your mind. Your narrow, bigoted point of view muddles your thinking and makes you look foolish - which I'm sure you're not

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I've never heard Zulu talk about "killing blacks" and for that matter I've never heard him be racist. He certainly has a different way of describing a solution "lock down borders and start killing assholes in Syria and Iraq" but to be fair, he's right. There are a few details that would need looking in here like how do you close down borders in Europe and that nations are very reluctant to commit ground troops to the trouble zone, but in essence their is no other solution.

I think you need to read what is written, rather than reading it the way you want to read it.

Now over to you. There's a couple of questions you keep avoiding.

What would your solution be?

OR

You don't care for a solution and you support what happened in Paris?

""WE" have increased in numbers and influence so they can bleat all they want but it will not stop 'us'."

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Well, left wing, pinko, champ socialist soft views that you would percieive my views to be... there are many long term strategies including the non reliance on fossil fuel, to stop the colonial mindset of interfering in other countries business and redrawing maps to fatten your on kids and retain influence,(almost white supramacist attitute that you fought for in Angola and Namibia), stop creating nutters like Osama, Taliban, ISIS, ISI etc etc (accidently or by design), stop overthrowing democracies if you don't like their left wing views. Prosecute all war criminals ..inc Bush Blair Howard. Stop humiliating muslims in Palastine, stop taking their water, their land, stop killing their mothers and bombing the crap out of communities and destroying their infrastructure to keep them weak, stop killing hundreds of thousands or millions and weeping uncontrollably when 2300 get killed in NY. Not give support to our troops in obviously illegal wars like Iraq!!!
Stop unconditional support for Saudi, Qatar and others
Ironically right wing nutters cause the problem (by going into iraq for example) and left wingers are asked to come up with ideas to fix it!

To tell you the truth, the above is just a scatter gun of thoughts and I dont have any solutions ...I've given up as right wing tossers have been calling the shots for nearly 20 years plus and there is no end in sight to the madness of kill kill kill (your side won and control everything)!

Today I am French.

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For suggesting that that is what i'm implying, i'll kindly say to you "**** OFF" and how dare you!

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Well at least we cleared that up. I was beginning to wonder.

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Sorry - that was my overreaction :-( Sincere Apologies

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So how many "Blacks" did you personally wipe out with your Glock 18 ...go on don't be bashful ...give us your proud count?