View Poll Results: Nanny State:- Which is worse?
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22
70.97%
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6
19.35%
What Nanny State? I'm confused - I don't know.
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Nanny State: Which is worse?
Jul 3rd 2011, 1:01 am
#61
Crazy Cat Lady
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Re: Nanny State: Which is worse?
Those buggers hurt, wouldn't get me doing it now, mind you I'm probably a wuss 
Jul 3rd 2011, 1:07 am
#62
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Re: Nanny State: Which is worse?
" excuse. But yes when the cash is here we'll definately be taking him. Eldest somehow got to do it 2 or 3 times in the UK so I have to try and be fair.
Jul 3rd 2011, 3:30 am
#64
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Re: Nanny State: Which is worse?
It's the first time I have heard of it, at Bunnings most of the old duffers wouldn't be able to lift the bag either I'm 6'4" and 105kg which is why I thought it seemed a little over the top, I could carry 2 under each arm.
I'm 6'4" and 105kg which is why I thought it seemed a little over the top, I could carry 2 under each arm. 
Jul 3rd 2011, 3:40 am
#65
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Re: Nanny State: Which is worse?
The husband tells me the bags used to be sold in 50kg and that they had to be 'trolleyed' to the car. H&S then came in and said a 'normal' man should only carry 20kg so the bags went down to that weight. Maybe your numpty trolley pusher hadn't been informed the rules had changed. Maybe he was just a tool.
Jul 3rd 2011, 5:01 am
#66
da Bonehead
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Re: Nanny State: Which is worse?
In Queenland there is no maximum permissible limit (MPL) for lifting tasks. This is because there is great variability in the nature of the load being lifted, the height at which it is being handled, the location and work environment as well as the individual characteristics of the worker.
SOURCE: http://www.deir.qld.gov.au/workplace...mits/index.htm
SOURCE: http://www.deir.qld.gov.au/workplace...mits/index.htm
Jul 3rd 2011, 5:09 am
#67
da Bonehead
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Re: Nanny State: Which is worse?
Are there any recommended weight limits for manual lifting?
The law does not include maximum weight limits.The main legal requirements require avoidance or control of risk. HSE does not recommend weight limits.
SOURCE: http://www.hse.gov.uk/msd/faq.htm
The law does not include maximum weight limits.The main legal requirements require avoidance or control of risk. HSE does not recommend weight limits.
SOURCE: http://www.hse.gov.uk/msd/faq.htm
Jul 3rd 2011, 7:57 am
#68
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Re: Nanny State: Which is worse?
I worked for a company that, as one of its many attributes, was registered to install PVCu windows. As both an occasional installer & the bloke who often measured I had to stipulate where the window/door was situated as it may require a different glass. As far as I remember laws were changed so that even the old style Georgian panes had to be toughened [certainly on local authority work]
Having seen the horrific injuries to a small child that fell through a Georgian window I think it's a great idea.
Jul 3rd 2011, 8:12 am
#69
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Re: Nanny State: Which is worse?
I don't feel that what you think is nannyism could be construed as such. To me it's common sense that when fitting new glazing it should conform to building regs.
I worked for a company that, as one of its many attributes, was registered to install PVCu windows. As both an occasional installer & the bloke who often measured I had to stipulate where the window/door was situated as it may require a different glass. As far as I remember laws were changed so that even the old style Georgian panes had to be toughened [certainly on local authority work]
Having seen the horrific injuries to a small child that fell through a Georgian window I think it's a great idea.
I worked for a company that, as one of its many attributes, was registered to install PVCu windows. As both an occasional installer & the bloke who often measured I had to stipulate where the window/door was situated as it may require a different glass. As far as I remember laws were changed so that even the old style Georgian panes had to be toughened [certainly on local authority work]
Having seen the horrific injuries to a small child that fell through a Georgian window I think it's a great idea.
I make no judgement on whether this rule is good or bad, just that it exists.
Last edited by Rambi; Jul 3rd 2011 at 8:41 am.
Jul 3rd 2011, 8:15 am
#70
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Re: Nanny State: Which is worse?
The health and safety manual where I work is so big and heavy it is against the health and safety regulations to try to lift it
Jul 3rd 2011, 8:46 am
#72
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Jul 4th 2011, 12:24 am
#75
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Re: Nanny State: Which is worse?
The husband tells me the bags used to be sold in 50kg and that they had to be 'trolleyed' to the car. H&S then came in and said a 'normal' man should only carry 20kg so the bags went down to that weight. Maybe your numpty trolley pusher hadn't been informed the rules had changed. Maybe he was just a tool. Which reminds me - it's amazing, really how little trg is allocated to vol firefighters ..I would have expected a module but there wasn't one.
About the only safety advice is careful how you get out of the truck !
And inside, wearing BA, get out when the whistle goes..or when it seems like a good idea...